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				Ar 196 Tirpitz Bismarck May 1941
			 Seeking pics of these Bismarck planes (below) or ones on Prinz Eugen, May 41 only? Has anyone any confirmed pics? Saved from eBay or otherwise. Scan required, please, if possible. T3+IH (Red "I" seems odd), as photo shows all codes in Black. http://www.mc-hobbyshop.com/en/arado...rontier-f.html Bismarck had: Ar 196 A-2 W.Nr. 0123 “T3+DL” (Fw. J. Kemple) Ar 196 A-3 W.Nr. 0150 “T3+MK” (Fw. W. Seeliger) Ar 196 A-2 W.Nr. 0110 “T3+AK” (Fw. O. Andersen) Ar 196 A-2 W.Nr. 0052 “T3+JH” (Uffz. E. Lange) Did any Atlantic raider (1939/1940) carry Ar 196s or He 114s ? Best Eggert | 
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				Re: Ar 196 Tirpitz Bismarck May 1941
			 Hi ed , i collected from ebay some pictures of the big ships. I will see later tonight if the required pics are among them. I know one raider had a plane without markings on it, i will post them later. | 
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				Re: Ar 196 Tirpitz Bismarck May 1941
			 Thanks, found this on Hipper etc. Bismarck one illustrated seems be T3+IH, not T3+JH (!) http://ww2seaplanes.e-monsite.com/pa...do-ar-196.html | 
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				Re: Ar 196 Tirpitz Bismarck May 1941
			 I believe the German raiders Komet and Orion both carried the Ar 196. Chuck | 
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				Re: Ar 196 Tirpitz Bismarck May 1941
			 I have no picture that reveal codes from the Prinz Eugen or the Bismarck. Few from the Hipper one small series getting the Arado back onboard with a "wave equalizer" | 
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				Re: Ar 196 Tirpitz Bismarck May 1941
			 All commerce raiders of the Kriegsmarine carried one or two floatplanes. In 1939 the DEUTSCHLAND and ADMIRAL GRAF SPEE carried one Ar 196 each. Four of the armed merchant cruisers (KOMET, ORION, THOR and WIDDER) sent on war patrol in 1940 also carried one Ar 196, the KORMORAN had two Ar 196 aboard and ATLANTIS and PINGUIN carried two He 114. | 
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				Re: Ar 196 Tirpitz Bismarck May 1941
			 thank you all. -Ed | 
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				Re: Ar 196 Tirpitz Bismarck May 1941
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 Bismarck's airwing. Arado   Ar196 Crew Pilot: Unteroffizier Ernst Lange. Observer: Leutenant Günter Lademann. Werk.No.110, markings T3+AK Pilot: Feldwebel Oskar Andersen. Observer: Leutenant zur See Rolf Hambruch. Werk.No.123, markings T3+DL Pilot: Feldwebel Josef Kempfle. Observer: Oberleutenant Siegfried Mühling. Werk.No.150, markings T3+MK Pilot: Feldwebel Werner Seeliger. Observer: Leutenant Martin Lange. Arados T3 + IH, T3 + AK, and T3 + DL were of the A-2 type, while T3 + MK was an A-3. Hope this is of interest. Mark E. Horan | 
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				Re: Ar 196 Tirpitz Bismarck May 1941
			 I have quite a number of Ar 196 photos but the trouble is none show the Wk Nr | 
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				Re: Ar 196 Tirpitz Bismarck May 1941
			 Thanks again, all. -Ed PS: Mark, removing one nulls from W.Nr.´s is not correct to do, they were either W.Nr. 0196/0052 or just 196 0052 as some write them. (My source is GQM losses for them.) | 
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