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Old 8th September 2026, 21:47
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Kurt Rochel had 6 air to air kills in Spain during the late 1930's. It was known that he had additional kills during WWII. How many that would be? Did he survive WWII?

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Old 8th September 2026, 23:21
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POW with 5./ZG 26 2 Sep 40 with 5 victories apparently
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Old 9th September 2026, 07:36
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Thanks for the answer Chris. Kurt Rochel was a holder of the Iron Cross 1st Class during WWII.

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Old 9th September 2026, 08:08
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Regarding his claims in Spain, I have 5 destroyed and 1 unconfirmed:
1937-11-29 I-16
1938-01-20 I-15
1938-02-21 I-16
1938-03-10 I-16
1938-05-18 I-16 Unconfirmed
1938-06-10 I-16

In WWII I have:
1940-05-31 Spitfire
1940-05-31 Spitfire
1940-06-01 Enemy aircraft

Thus I lack two in WWII. Does anyone have the dates?


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Many thousands had the EK I and K Report strangely just says EK II so he was captured before he could get EP or DKiG. No doubt he had Spanish Cross but the photo I have of him is in a flying suit
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According to Johannes' book:
14/05/1940 - E/A
15/05/1940 - Hurricane S Ath ~19h
31/05/1940 - Spitfire x2 Dunkirk
01/06/1940 - E/A
02/09/1940 - Hurricane unconfirmed Thames estuary (the day he was shot down and captured with his gunner Willy Schöffler)
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Thanks Alfred!

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Kurt Rochel (17.11.1915-.12.1992)
EK.II (19.05.1940)
EK.I (08.07.1940)
Frontflugspange in Bronze (12.04.1941)
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DKiG not applicable, as first awards were late 1941, although this guy apparently got a retroactive FFS.
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True Vince but some got the DKiG as POWs after 1940
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