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Old 9th May 2007, 23:21
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Briegleb´s claims on Beaufighters - Dec. 1944

Good night to all! It has been already posted early (but I did not find on the Search area of the Forum, although I have searched almost half an hour ). Well, I am looking to identify the two Beaufighters claimed by Oberleutnant Briegleb on 28/29 December and 29/30 December 1944 N and NW of Borkum.
It seems that the first machine was from 254 Squadron. Please, could someone give me the serial number, codes and name of crews of those RAF machines?
Glad in advance.

PS: He also claimed a Vickers Wellington on the night of 2/3 December 1944, although there is no RAF loss recorded. It could be that was the machine of 23 Squadron flown by W/C A M Murphy, DSO*, DFC, CdG*? It crashed near Zwolle? Any news on that claim too?
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Re: Briegleb´s claims on Beaufighters - Dec. 1944

Adriano several years ago Walter wrote me and mentioned for the the first Beau as you mentioned at 19.13hrs. 254th sq. NV 179.

his second Beau entry just has 18.39 hrs NW Borkum 40km.

I have a note that says shot down Wellington at 300 metres for 2 December 44 at 21.35 hrs.

hopeful someone else can add more for you

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Old 10th May 2007, 15:27
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Re: Briegleb´s claims on Beaufighters - Dec. 1944

Hi Erich!
Thank you for answering. I do know it was quiet common to misdjuge an aircraft for another, particularly at night and under pressures of combat action, fatigue, etc...There are several examples on the NACHTJAGD ( Jabs claiming a Stirling when it was a Lancaster; Schnaufer claiming a Lanc when it was a Halifax, etc...)
But, as we both have checked, there is no RAF losses ( on Bomber Command Records! I did not have access to Coastal Command losses yet ) on twins on the last entries 29/30 December and 2/3 December...
By the way, did you have the names of the crew of NV179? Could you pass them for me, if available?
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