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Old 21st March 2009, 22:21
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Kdo Sperling as soon as 2. sept.1944

A AR234 of Kdo Sperling crash on landing at Orianenburg on 2.sept.
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Re: Kdo Sperling as soon as 2. sept.1944

Hi Remi,

I can only offer a flight on 2.Sept. at Oranienburg with Hptm Bisping at the controls of Ar234 V15, T9+HL. But whether there was a crash I don´t know as he flew this kite next time on 7. Sept.

Olt Götz already made an emergency landing at Oranienburg on 28. Aug., when he started from Juvincourt and got friendly Flak hits over Mons. The fuselage separated during the landing and Götz was slightly wounded on the eyes.

Olt Sommer was at that time in Volkel, to go to Rheine on 4. Sept., continuing to fly reconnaisance missions.

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Old 22nd March 2009, 12:44
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Re: Kdo Sperling as soon as 2. sept.1944

Hello Karl,

We could guess that Bisping is a strong outsider for the 2.sept crash, 5 days to repair why not ??
V-15 is 140115 OR 130015
115 was in Rechlin end of august as GM+BP

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Re: Kdo Sperling as soon as 2. sept.1944

Hi,

BTW when Kdo Sperling started to exist? From 05.09.44 onwards or earlier?

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Old 23rd March 2009, 15:09
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Re: Kdo Sperling as soon as 2. sept.1944

"V-15 is 140115 OR 130015"

Remi, I believe w/n 140115 was the Ar 234S-15 and w/n 130025 was the V-15.

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Re: Kdo Sperling as soon as 2. sept.1944

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Hi,

BTW when Kdo Sperling started to exist? From 05.09.44 onwards or earlier?

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Richard Smith & Eddie Creek's book "Arado 234 Blitz" or their "On Special Missions" would probably answer your question.
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Old 24th March 2009, 21:28
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Re: Kdo Sperling as soon as 2. sept.1944

I follow the suggestion of Nick, nd found a lot on the book of Smith+Creek,
further I also found that Kdo Sperling/1.F123 Flew also 2 crafts numbered 460 nd 464 on february 45, so 140460+140464 whom first flight occured on 17.dec. , who know more about them ??

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Re: Kdo Sperling as soon as 2. sept.1944

The Appendix of the Smith/Creek Ar 234 book lists every known aircraft. But if you found this information in Ultra then you will see that there are almost daily reports from Kdo. Sperling.
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Re: Kdo Sperling as soon as 2. sept.1944

Right nd among the Kz given there were these 2 Wn

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