Four Pictures

[ouidjat]

Hi,

Any details and comments? Thanks.

Cheers, Franck.

[Miguel]

Franck,

The second image seems to show a 109 G (G 6 ?) of IV/JG3 in italy in Summer 1943.
The wavy line is very characterisctic of that Gruppe.

Cheers

[Revi16]

The 4th picture is from the Army Signal Corps collection stored at the US National Archives (NARA).

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Salut Franck,

#1: the small wheel bulges on the wing, the refined cowling bulges, the horse-shoe type oil tank and the oil filler cap hatch in the lower position are clear indicators for a Bf 109 G-6/AS or G-14/AS.

#3: same characteristics as #1, so also a Bf 109 G-6/AS or G-14/AS. No unit signs can be seen. The W.Nr. can be guessed, applied on the upper part of the fin. This a common practice for Mtt built machines.

#4: shot taken at Bonn-Hangelar in late March 1945, showing the wreck of WNF built Bf 109 G-8 W.Nr. 202 113 "Grüne 7", unit unknown. Hitchcock 1977, p. 4.

Cheers
Marc

[ouidjat]

Bonsoir Marc,

Merci! Page 4 for Hitchcock???? I was sure it wasn't Yellow 7.
Funny, "Four pictures" attracts more curiosity than "Bf109 on eBay" !!! Or perhaps it's because of YOU!!! .

@Miguel,
I think I/We have another picture of that White 10. (For me the camouflage is more symptomatic of a production (WNF, Erla ...) than a unit; so, I don't know. But let's check!) Sorry Miguel, wrong answer! you talked about WAVY line, you mean IV. Gr. identification!!! OK, OK!

Cheers, Franck.

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Yep, you guessesd it.. Late war 109's are my favourites...

Cheers
Marc

[Khorat]

hm not realy sure - but #3 looks like a JG 53 109, downed march 26th by AA-fire near the rhine-crossing at Hamm, but then it must be a late G modell (?).
The pilot killed in the belly landing - not realy sure, but from the area- specially the houses seen in the background - it could be....

khorat

[ouidjat]

Hello Khorat,

... Means you have another picture to compare?? For the moment I've nothing obvious to check.
But Marc is right, G-6/14/AS, no problemo.

Franck.

[Khorat]

no - sorry no picture availiable here - just about the location, street and houses behind, looking exactly like the place it happend.
When it happend - just some hundred meters near a US Camp where the troops prepare for the river rhine crossing, so a lot of GI´s been there in a minute or two.

khorat

[Revi16]

Aircraft in picture #4,

Bf-109 "7" Wnr. 202113
Bf-109 "2" no Wnr.
Bf-109 "8" no Wnr.
Ju-87 "K" Wnr. 131372
Fw-190 Wnr. 582542