WerkNr 15472 and 15612

[vinnie]

Hi everybody,

I was hoping that anyone could tell me more about the faith and career of Me-109 G-6 WrkNr 15472 and 15612. They were made by Erla Leipzig in about April 1943, but what happened to these aircraft after their delivery with about 24 other Messerschmitts at 8./JG 1 in May 1943?
Thanks!

[Matti Salonen]

1943-08-11, 8./JG 1, Bf 109G-6, 15472, Südlich Texel, Bauchlandung infolge Motorstörung. Bruch 20 %.
1943-08-19, 8./JG 1, Bf 109G-6, 15472, 8 schw, Cadzand, 8 km nordöstlich Knokke, Notlandung nach Zusammenstoß in der Luft mit Bf 109G-6, Werk.-Nr. 15367. Bruch 20 %.
1943-08-19, 8./JG 1, Bf 109G-6, 15612, Bei Het Zoute, 1,5 km östnordöstlich Knokke, Bauchlandung infolge Feindbeschuß. Bruch 35 %.

Matti

[Khorat]

15472, belly landing south of Texel due engine failure August 11th 1943 with III./JG 1, damage given with 20%
15472, emergency landing after mid air collision near Kadzandhaven August 19th 1943 with 8./JG 1 marking black 8+I damage again 20%
noting more about this aircraft.
15612 belly landing after combat near Het Zoute with 8./JG 1, damage given with 35%
nothing more about this aircraft.

kind regards
khorat

[Khorat]

Matti was faster :-)

khorat

[RT]

are the other 24 others known ??

Remi

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Matti Salonen

1943-08-11, 8./JG 1, Bf 109G-6, 15472, Südlich Texel, Bauchlandung infolge Motorstörung. Bruch 20 %.
1943-08-19, 8./JG 1, Bf 109G-6, 15472, 8 schw, Cadzand, 8 km nordöstlich Knokke, Notlandung nach Zusammenstoß in der Luft mit Bf 109G-6, Werk.-Nr. 15367. Bruch 20 %.
1943-08-19, 8./JG 1, Bf 109G-6, 15612, Bei Het Zoute, 1,5 km östnordöstlich Knokke, Bauchlandung infolge Feindbeschuß. Bruch 35 %.

Matti

Interesting Matti (or slower Khorat ) since damages where very low, is there available details about their "lives" after those little accidents?

Of course Vinnie, since you declared that 8./JG 1 received about 24 in May 43, Remi is perfectly right asking you " what about the others". Any listing to share with us please? Thanks.

Franck.

[vinnie]

Thanks, gentlemen!

I looked at the Flugzeugbestand of III./JG 1 and found out that in May 26 Me-109 G-6 aircraft were delivered. I found out that for example WrkNr 15458 (black 10 from Lt. Joachim Göhre) belonged to this lot. After some research, it turned out that this aircraft was delivered by Erla on 14 May 1943. In this Erla-lot most probably also were some of the following other Werknummern: 15363, 15365, 15366, 15367, 15389, 15429, 15438, 15439, 15440, 15441, etc. I found 26 + one uncertain Messerschmitt. By the end of May, or maybe even in early June, WNF must have delivered a second lot. This lot includes Werknummern like 19611, 19613, 19848, 19854, 19913, but even 20103 and 20114 from a different block. These are just my observations, but if someone could add anything: let me know!

Interesting to note is the fact that 15472 made an emergency landing on 19 August 1943 after a collision. This day Oblt. Herwig Zuzic collided with another plane from his staffel; most likely this mystery is now solved: 15472 collided with Zuzic's 15367.

[Khorat]

Hi vinnie,
thats right Zuzic collided with 15472.

khorat

[leospitcon]

Guys,

I have a photo of a damaged black 8 and I assume that this back 8 is the 15472 as mentioned in your conversation.

This assumption is based on the fact that there is only one single back 8 crashed in Zeeland.

I need a confirmation that the attached photo is the black 8 of Cadzand Haven and if yes who was the pilot.

Leo

[ClinA-78]

This Black 8 seems to be an Emil