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Old 12th October 2011, 23:14
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Yak 3-looking for information

Hi.
Recently we found wreckage Yak-3 in the Slovak Republic, who was shot down on January 14 1945 in the village Muzsla.Can anyone help with identifying of Russian pilot?Muzsla in 1945 belonged to Hungary.
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Old 13th October 2011, 10:09
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Re: Yak 3-looking for information

гв.мл.л-т Стадниченко Алексей Ефимович was shot down and killed near Muzsla-NW, 2 km in Hungary (recently Slovakia) on January 14, 1945 from 5 VA, 6 GvIAD, 31 GvIAP. His opponent was probably Hptm. Helmut Lipfert 6/JG 52. (Muzsla belonged to Hungary not only in 1945, but for about 7-800 years before 1920. It belonged to the Roman Catholic Cardinal of Esztergom, Hungary. Majority of population is still Hungarian. Just for accuracy.)

I hope this helps.

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Old 13th October 2011, 12:35
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Re: Yak 3-looking for information

Hello Gabor,

Can I ask you if your source is a published one, or if the data is coming directly from former Soviet archives ? If the former is true I will be interested to buy it.

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Old 13th October 2011, 12:48
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Re: Yak 3-looking for information

Laurent,

You can just try to type Stadnichenko´s name (or that of any other airman) in cyrilic into http://www.obd-memorial.ru/ database and it will, in most cases, provide you some basic details. Hope this helps.

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Old 13th October 2011, 16:11
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Re: Yak 3-looking for information

Hi Laurent,

I access(ed) both. But this one was public, see above. Cheers,

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Old 13th October 2011, 19:35
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Re: Yak 3-looking for information

Thank you for the info Gabor.
We did not find the pilot.It is listed as missing?And where can I get a photo, I need it in a museum.
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Old 13th October 2011, 19:49
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Re: Yak 3-looking for information

No problem. The pilot was killed, not missing. But Hartmann claimed another one in the area, I assume from the same unit. Maybe that guy survived. Who knows. As of the photo... It is not easy. I cannot promise anything now.

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Old 13th October 2011, 20:49
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So the pilot was found and buried?
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Old 13th October 2011, 21:00
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Re: Yak 3-looking for information

Gentlemen,

Several corrections:

1. Stadnichenko was shot down on Yak-9, not Yak-3. Serial № 1615342
2. Area given in operational documents is "Kibelkut"
3. Surely by Lipfert, time matches.
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Old 13th October 2011, 21:19
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Re: Yak 3-looking for information

Thanks Nikita, the point is yours:

1. Stadnichenko was shot down on Yak-9, not Yak-3. Serial № 1615342
-I read the personal file mentioned above, haven't checked the serials specifically
2. Area given in operational documents is "Kibelkut"
-Kibelkut is Hungarian "Köbölkút" (now called: Gbelce) It is in the same area (the very next settlement), so it still can be Muzsla.
3. Surely by Lipfert, time matches.
-I agree. Sorry, I quoted the name of German pilot just from memory, but remembered the twin victories. You are right, Lipfert claimed both, not Hartmann.

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