eBay: Bf 109s. 15/03/14

[ouidjat]

Hi Gents,

- Any comments available for this Bf 109F-4 (or an Arado F-2 with the last engine) "P -" behind Galland?

- What about the Dunkerque beached one? Looks like Wissant old eBay auction with all this team surrounding it... But different view... Or, it wasn't Wissant at all, however I think it's the same machine depicted here.

- As for "Weisse 14", no clue but http://www.ebay.de/itm/JG-3-Messersc...item5afd4b15ed back does indicate 2 deads during this accident: "1 Flugzeug F(uhrer) and 1 ???. Tot."

- I think I missed one JG 3 "Gelbe 7" crash picture in the list above. Let me check ...
16/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/JG-3-Messersc...item5afd4b142c
Same thing; on Picture's back ... Uffz. ???

Regards, Franck.

[Nordpol54]

@ Franck,

as far as i could decipher the writings:

- weiße 14 abgestürzt. 1 Flugzeugf., 1 Funker tot

- Beim Start überschlug sich Uffz. Gräf mit der gelben 7 weil mit Rückenwind...

Best Regards
Norbert

[ouidjat]

Hello Norbert,

there is an Uffz. Karl Gräf, I./JG 3, cited in JFV Teil.2 for an accident, 10%, on 21-Jan-1940 at Montekoven - most probably not that one.

Then, 3./JG 3, cited in JFV Teil.2 & Teil.3.I for air victories only ... After 28/08 .. nothing.

But:
There is a Kurt Gräf, 3./JG 3, in the Kracker list. Victories for 21, 26 and 28/08/1940 are the same except Prien counts one on 21/02 than one on 14/05when Kracker counts two on 14/05/1940.

Most probably the same guy but Kurt or Karl... And nothing about that Gelbe 7 Uberschlag!

Thanks Norbert, I thought it was written "Gräf" but not very sure.

Still, nothing about date, place and WNr. Grrr ....

Best regards, Franck.

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

And we do read Brüder, with Umlaut... though I wondered if we should read Bründler.

An lesson in German:
Bruder --- singular, Brüder --- plural

Greetings
Rasmussen

[ouidjat]

Hmmm ..

Grrr... I'm not able to use the "Umlaut" anymore since I started to look at Marc's Flickr page with "Adult content" from China!!!

I got a bug and here is the result: Br¨¨uder!! I can use only the singular mode!

Thanks Rasmussen for the lesson; however, both form are in the Kracker list (again?? Yes! I like this tool) as family names too.

BR, Franck.

PS: or maybe it's because of the coffee drops on my keyboard, last week

[Rasmussen]

No ... I mean not an family name but "Bruder" as "brother".

[Don Pearson]

- Any comments available for this Bf 109F-4 (or an Arado F-2 with the last engine) "P -" behind Galland?





See page 492 of JFV 5. Possibly the aircraft of Lt Peter Göring

Don

[ouidjat]

Hi Guys,

@Rasmussen. Yep, I understood with a smiley.

@Don: Thanks .. I haven't JVF 5! Gr...
But thanks a lot anyway.

... ??? Seems that not only Umlaut is kidding with me on that computer ...

So: Anybody to put a scan of that JFV 5, page 492? T.U for the help.

Regards, Franck.

[Don Pearson]

Originally Posted by ouidjat

Hi Guys,


@Don: Thanks .. I haven't JVF 5! Gr...
But thanks a lot anyway.


So: Anybody to put a scan of that JFV 5, page 492? T.U for the help.

Regards, Franck.

It is the same photo

Don

[RT]

Its Bruder/Brother, in an other picture its written Bruder Alois near a Klemm

Rémi