eBay: a Stab JG27 Bf109.. with Stab emblem??

[sidney]

Jim, I don't take what you said personally. After all, you are perfectly right to have your own opinion on the discussion, and it does not have to be affirmative. As for the examples of the formerly Geschwader emblems being used as the personal emblems that you mentioned, I can say that I can recall seeing them. Although size/form does not matter, they were more or less in a miniature form, while the one we are discussing here was sported on the aircraft quite prominently. Anyway, that of course does not prove anything.

I did not follow your reference to General Christiansen, it refers to his personal emblem shown on another photo and is not related to this discussion. As for the other references that I posted on the "personal" emblem, there is a Christmas 1943 note to the soldiers of the Luftnachrichten Kompanie of Jagdgeschwader Rödel (i.e., JG 27) issued by its commanding officer, Hptm. Könneke The emblem on the left-hand side is that of the Luftnachrichten Kompanie, while on the right is that presumably of (Stab/)JG 27.

The photographic evidence posted is taken from the same Luftnachrichten Kompanie photo album, which gives some insight on the time while (elements of) JG 27 was/were based at Kalamaki, Greece. The emblem can be barely seen on the photo on the right hand side in the middle.

All that evidence points out that the (Stab/)JG 27 emblem existed. The aforementioned evidence might not be acceptable to everyone, but to me is an avenue worth exploring further.

Regards,
Sinisa

[sidney]

Just received and scanned the photo with some 3,200 dpi to see whether some more details can be revealed. Concentrated on two areas at present - the soldier and the wooden planks. According to what I can see, it seems obvious that featured on the photo is an unarmed German soldier, while part of the inscription on the upper wooden plank reads '.... Baslovo', and on the lower it seemingly reads '142 ...'. For some reason I cannot export the photos in jpeg file format or upload them on the TOCH, so unless someone can assist me, you will have to believe me on my word.

[ouidjat]

Hi Guys,

Back on business ..
Don't know the picture you're talking about Sidney; anyway Here is what I've collected about Baslovo.

Baslovo Pervoye, Vtoroye and Novoye Baslovo I listed before are in the same area if not the same city. (see distance on one of the photos)
However, There is a second Baslovo (Baslovo 2).

Got no more.

To come back on loss report:
I Wonder how Dr. Prien was able to publish <<- when the report told <. Insight or did he get the photo before publishing?

One can say there is an error in loss report about that marking; Indeed.
But one can say there is an error concerning the WNr.
... And one error is not better than the other one.

Regards, Franck.

[ouidjat]

And ..

[sidney]

Franck, the photo I am talking about is the one you open this discussion with in Post No.1. I have scanned it focusing on certain areas of it, such as the German soldier standing/posing next to the tail of the belly-landed Bf 109 F-4 and wooden planks identifying the settlement and apparently the German unit that occupied it (on the far left side of the photo). Trust that this clarifies the issue.

[ouidjat]

Got it! Maybe Falcon as an "original enlargement"!