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Old 14th May 2015, 15:57
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Acfts ID Budapest

In a similar context , can anyone ID the aircraft types eventually
the location which is presumed as Budapest ,Hungaria. On left shot
according left hand side and right hand side details seems to be
the remains of a JU-88 though not sure.

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Old 14th May 2015, 16:03
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Re: Acfts ID Budapest

Yes, these are German DFS 230 gliders in Buda, on Vérmező ("Blood-field" a city park, used as landing strip) participating the Budapest airlift in January, 1945 when they tried to send supplies mainly from Pápa airfield in Western-Hungary during the night hours to the encircled forces of Budapest. Certainly it was not efficient enough and many packages fell into Russian hands, etc. 2nd pic shows Fw. Jacob Filius' famous DFS 230 glider (2./LLG.1) in the roof of 37 Attila street after the January 23/24, 1945 crash. Poor guy missed the landing at night and was beheaded by the force of the crash. Markings: H4+2 - 6.

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Re: Acfts ID Budapest

Gabor, like always great ID's thank you !

Also can you ident the Buda's district depicted below ?
OK what is then the bomb shapped container depicted
on the left shot top photos?

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Old 14th May 2015, 16:14
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Yep, these are all remains of single seated German DFS 230 gliders, towed by He 111s, Ju 87s to Budapest. That bomb shape container was used for parachute drops from He 111s, Ju 52s. They were usually filled with ammunition (and hay to protect it). Parachute color was usually red. This park in Buda was a combined drop and landing zone in the final days of the siege.

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Re: Acfts ID Budapest

Also on which part of Budapest are the two shots below ?

PS : One more difficult question for my research, do u know
on which sector of Budapest the 23rd Independt Strafniks
Group of the Soviet 54th Army 1st Ukr Front was fighting ?

23-я отдельная штрафная рота 4-й, 54-й армий 1



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No idea about these ground units during the battle...
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Thanks for the useful ID's Gabor ! PS : tell me something, were these gliders
German equipped for night flying and IMC ( instrument meteo condiotions )
and what was the name of the airfield or airstrip behind that building ?
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Old 14th May 2015, 16:25
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I think the "buda2" shot is in fact in Pest at the corner of Deák and Erzsébet (Elizabeth) squares. (Buda is the hilly, right side of the city, Pest is the flat left side, the river Danube divides these 2 old cities apart in the middle. In 1872-1873 they (plus Óbuda, - "Old-Buda" at Buda-N) joined together as "Budapest".)
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Thanks very much Gabor, your help is appreciated !
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