Uffz Werner Schumichen BF110 15(Z)LG1

[gedburke3]

Dear all,

I'm having an extension built at the moment and all my books are in storage.

Can anyone access John Vasco's books on the 110 and let me know what details are included in it relating to Werner Schuminchen's 110 lost on August 13th 1940.
I know its a long shot but a photograph of the aircraft and or Schuminchen would be much appreciated.
Finally, I'm pushing my luck, does the book mention which squadron were involved in the combat that resulted in the 110 being shot down.

Kind regards
Gerry

[focusfocus]

according "battle of britain" combat archive

crashed Swalland Farm,Kimmeridge,Dorset.
When flying at 6.000 ft,the aircraft was attacked by four fighters,setting the aircraft alight and the crew baled out.the men landed in the sea 1mile1/2s south of Gaulers Gap and were picked up by Mr.Marshall who was lifting lobster pots.

601°Sqdr and 238°Sqdr.involved
michel

[gedburke3]

Hi Michel,
Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.
Does the report mention the time that the combat took place?
Also, do you know if a photograph exists of the aircraft or the crew?
Regards
Gerry

[Nick Beale]

Two ULTRA decrypts mention these actions (times are GMT):

CX/JQ/223
12. Source saw document from V.(Z)/LG 1 to ZG 76 which stated: 23 Bf 110 started at 1010/13 and landed at 1205. They carried out armed recce in area Yeovil – Salisbury at a height of 5000 to 6000 metres. They crossed English coast at 1100/13, 20 km W of Bournemouth. From 1105 to 1130 they engaged between 50 and 100 Spitfire, Hurricane and Curtiss. They claim to have shot down 9 British a/c. Their own losses were stated to be 5 a/c. (A)

CX/JQ/224
3. With reference to CX/JQ/223, para. 12: source has since learnt that 5 Me 110 reported missing by V.(Z)/LG 1, 1 exploded in mid-air and the crew of another bailed out over land.

The Gruppe expects to have 15 a/c ready on 14/8. (A)

[gedburke3]

Hi Nick,
That's really helpful, thank you.
I had presumed that the combat was much later in the afternoon.
That narrows it down nicely.
Regards
Gerry

[John Vasco]

Bf 110 D
L1+FL
Uffz. Werner Schümichen (pilot)
Ogefr. Otto Giglhuber (Bordfunker)


Both PoW.

[gedburke3]

Cheers John,
I appreciate your reply.
Do you have a picture of him or the aircraft?
Regards
Gerry

[focusfocus]

shot down at 12.35 p.m,believed by Sgt. H.J.Marsh (238°Sqdr.)

[Chris Goss]

There are a number of shots of airborne L1+FL in the V./LG 1 book, one of Giglhuber. Not found one of the pilot

[gedburke3]

Hi Chris,
Thanks for pointing me toward that book.
Its not one that I have in my collection.
For confirmation sake is it the book by Ludwig Von Eimannsberger?
Cheers
Gerry