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Old 10th October 2025, 10:38
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Angry Bostons VS III/JG5

Hello all

25/05/44=20 Bostons (A-20,Il-4??) credited
26/05/44=11 Bostons (A-20,Ill-4??)
17/0644=9 Bostons (A-20,Il-4??)
27/06/44=10 Bostons (A-20,Il-4??)
28/06/40=5 Bostons (A-20,Il-4??)
04/07/44=11 Bostons (A-20,Il-4??)
17/07/44=13 Bostons (A-20,Il-4??)
17/08/44=12 Bostons (A-20,Il-4??)

81 Bostons in 8 days!!!!
Amazing,complete nonsense!

I have no information from the Soviet side,can someone elaborete?

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Old 10th October 2025, 23:58
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Re: Bostons VS III/JG5

From -
Tony Wood's Combat Claims & Casualties Lists.

25. May 1944

25.05.44 Ltn. Gerhard Lange 2./NAGr. 4 Pe-2 ⬜ 15 675 at 2.000 m. 08.59 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 15

25.05.44 Fw. Helmut Allwart 4./SG 5 Airacobra ⬜ E. Omgang: at 1.200 m. 20.52 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 9

25.05.44 Fhj.Ofw. Walter Schuck 9./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.E. Omgang: at 1.000 m. 21.32 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 43
25.05.44 Ofw. August Lübking 9./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ E. Omgang: at 800 m. 21.33 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 44
25.05.44 Fhj.Ofw. Walter Schuck 9./JG 5 Curtiss P-40 ⬜ E. Omgang: at 800 m. 21.35 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 45
25.05.44 Ofw. August Lübking 9./JG 5 Curtiss P-40 ⬜ N. Berlevaag: at 800 m. 21.36 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 46
25.05.44 Ofw. Rudolf Linz 8./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.W. Berlevaag: at 500 m. 21.37 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 123
25.05.44 Fhj.Ofw. Walter Schuck 9./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.E. Berlevaag: at 800 m. 21.38 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 47
25.05.44 Obfhr. Karl-Heinz Schneider 8./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.E. Berlevaag: at 1.000 m. 21.38 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 124
25.05.44 Ofw. Rudolf Linz 8./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.W. Berlevaag: at 200 m. 21.39 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 145
25.05.44 Fhj.Ofw. Walter Schuck 9./JG 5 Curtiss P-40 ⬜ N.E. Berlevaag: at 800 m. 21.40 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 45
25.05.44 Ofw. Rudolf Linz 8./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.N.W. Berlevaag: tiefflug 21.40 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 128
25.05.44 Fhj.Ofw. Walter Schuck 9./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.E. Berlevaag: tiefflug 21.43 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 48
25.05.44 Uffz. Rudolf Artner 9./JG 5 Airacobra ⬜ N.E. Berlevaag: 1.500 m. 21.44 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 57
25.05.44 Fhj.Ofw. Walter Schuck 9./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.E. Berlevaag: tiefflug 21.45 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 51
25.05.44 Uffz. Hermann Amend 9./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.E. Berlevaag: tiefflug 21.47 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 52
25.05.44 Ofw. Rudolf Linz 8./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.W. Berlevaag: at 200 m. 21.35 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 202
25.05.44 Ofw. Rudolf Linz 8./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.W. Berlevaag: at 100 m. 21.36 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 203
25.05.44 Oblt. Rudolf Glöckner 8./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.W. Berlevaag: at 200 m. 21.38 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 204
25.05.44 Fw. Heinz Arnold 7./JG 5 Curtiss P-40 ⬜ N.E. Berlevaag: at 1.000 m. 21.42 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 101
25.05.44 Maj. Heinrich Ehrler Stab III./JG 5 Airacobra ⬜ N.E. Berlevaag: at 1.500 m. 21.43 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 135
25.05.44 Maj. Heinrich Ehrler Stab III./JG 5 Airacobra ⬜ N.E. Berlevaag: at 1.000 m. 21.45 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 134
25.05.44 Oblt. Franz Dörr 7./JG 5 Curtiss P-40 ⬜ N.N.E. Berlevaag: at 1.200 m. 21.45 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 103
25.05.44 Fw. Heinz Arnold 7./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.N.E. Berlevaag: at 200 m. 21.45 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 102
25.05.44 Fw. Heinz Arnold 7./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.N.E. Berlevaag: at 200 m. 21.46 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 104
25.05.44 Maj. Heinrich Ehrler Stab III./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.N.E. Berlevaag: at 200 m. 21.47 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 140
25.05.44 Fhj.Fw. Helmut Neumann 7./JG 5 Curtiss P-40 ⬜ N.N.E. Berlevaag: at 1.200 m. 21.47 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 105
25.05.44 Uffz. Heinz Hook 7./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.E. Berlevaag: at 150 m. 21.47 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 106
25.05.44 Maj. Heinrich Ehrler Stab III./JG 5 Curtiss P-40 ⬜ N.N.E. Berlevaag: at 150 m. 21.48 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 141
25.05.44 Oblt. Franz Dörr 7./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.N.E. Berlevaag: at 300 m. 21.49 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 107
25.05.44 Fhj.Fw. Helmut Neumann 7./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.N.E. Berlevaag: at 1.200 m. 21.49 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 108
25.05.44 Oblt. Franz Dörr 7./JG 5 Boston III ⬜ N.N.E. Berlevaag: at 300 m. 21.50 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 109
25.05.44 Fhj.Fw. Helmut Neumann 7./JG 5 Airacobra ⬜ N. Berlevaag: at 300 m. 21.51 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 110
25.05.44 Oblt. Franz Dörr 7./JG 5 Airacobra ⬜ N.N.E. Berlevaag: at 1.400 m. 21.52 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 111
25.05.44 Oblt. Rudolf Glöckner 8./JG 5 Curtiss P-40 ⬜ N.W. Berlevaag: at 1.000 m. 21.53 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 201

25.05.44 Fw. Gerhard Zschäbitz 3./JG 52 Pe-2 ⬜ 97 636 at 7.500 m. 07.35 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 372
25.05.44 Ltn. Leonhard Färber 3./JG 52 Yak-9 ⬜ 97 217 at 5.500 m. 07.49 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 373
25.05.44 Fw. Josef Jelaciz 3./JG 52 Yak-9 ⬜ 97 296 at 5.500 m. 07.50 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 274
25.05.44 Fw. Adolf Nehrig 1./JG 52 Il-2 m.H. ⬜ 97 712: at 2.000 m. 08.13 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 277

25.05.44 Uffz. Heinz Lauterbach 6./SG 10 Yak-9 ⬜ 98/82 at 50 m. 17.38 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 4
25.05.44 Uffz. Erich Pilz 6./SG 10 Yak-9 ⬜ 97/22 at 5 m. 17.40 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: ASM
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Old 11th October 2025, 00:43
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Re: Bostons VS III/JG5

Claims of just one Pilot for the 25th are also noted here -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Walter_Schuck
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Old 11th October 2025, 09:09
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Re: Bostons VS III/JG5

Sorry Alex,J' have the info from the luftwaffe side,what J'm looking for is the Soviet version to confirm (or not!!) the delirium of the claims!!!

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Old 11th October 2025, 16:43
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Re: Bostons VS III/JG5

Hi,

during the first attack on 25.05.44 Soviets lost 1 IL-4 and 3 A-20 and during the course of the evening battle 3 more Bostons failed to return.
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