Luftwaffe losses during Crete campaign 5.1941

[steve sheridan]

Hi,
Can anybody be good enough to supply information regarding losses from
KG26 on the following dates.

8.5.41 4x He111H's lost during ops to Suez area from II/ KG26

20.5.41 2X He111H's lost during ops to attack Heraklion Arfd, both from 6/KG26.

Any help would be most appreciated, particularly with the W.Nr's!

rgs,
Steve.

[RT]

Details are as follow
5 41 KG26 3 8 XFK 4 KG26 F /Suez-kanal/ X HE111H-5 3870 1H+BC 100 1 3
5 41 KG26 4 8 XFK 6 KG26 F /Suez-kanal/ X HE111H-5 3850 1H+AP 100 1 3
5 41 KG26 5 8 XFK 6 KG26 F /Suez-kanal/ X HE111H-5 3887 1H+FP 100 1 3
5 41 KG26 6 8 XFK 5 KG26 F /Suez-kanal/ X HE111H-5 3885 1H+FN 100 4
5 41 KG26 23 20 4 II KG26 F Héraklion FP BR feind gebiet HE111 3843 1H+ZP 100 2 1 1
5 41 KG26 24 20 4 II KG26 F /Kreta/ BR feind gebiet HE111 3953 1H+MP 100 4
5 41 KG26 25 20 4 II KG26 F /Kreta/ F MG X

[steve sheridan]

Merci RT,

The information you provided is excellent.
Many thanks for your time and effort.

Regards,
Steve.

[Joda87]

Hallo,
I found this old thread looking for info about LW losses during the battle for Crete in may 1941, in particular the Heraklion sector.

May I ask for your help about this data provided by RT?

5 41 KG26 23 20 4 II KG26 F Héraklion FP BR feind gebiet HE111 3843 1H+ZP 100 2 1 1

Many thanks for your help in advance

[sidney]

I am not sure whether this helps.

20/05/1941; 6./KG 26; Fl.Pl. Heraklion (Kreta); Bruchlandung auf Feindgebiet; He 111; 3843; 1H+ZP; 100%; Oblt. Stetten, Kurt v. gef.; Kreta (B) Oblt. Schmidt, Werner [gef.] / (Bf) Uffz. Kube, Heinz [verw.] / (Bm) Uffz. Miedl, Johann [gef.] / (Bs) Gefr. Hudelist, Franz [gef.]; 4-0-1-0; Take off: Athen-Eleusis

[Joda87]

Originally Posted by sidney

I am not sure whether this helps.

20/05/1941; 6./KG 26; Fl.Pl. Heraklion (Kreta); Bruchlandung auf Feindgebiet; He 111; 3843; 1H+ZP; 100%; Oblt. Stetten, Kurt v. gef.; Kreta (B) Oblt. Schmidt, Werner [gef.] / (Bf) Uffz. Kube, Heinz [verw.] / (Bm) Uffz. Miedl, Johann [gef.] / (Bs) Gefr. Hudelist, Franz [gef.]; 4-0-1-0; Take off: Athen-Eleusis

Many thanks!
I suppose that 3843 is the ID nr of the He 111 that0s correct?
What does 1H+ZP mean?

[sidney]

The manufacturer's W.Nr. (Serial number) for this aircraft was 3843.

1H = Kampfgeschwader 26 + Z (individual aircraft within the Staffel) P (6. Staffel).

You are welcome.

[Joda87]

Many thanks!
May I know where are these data from?

[sidney]

Sure.

It is from various sources, as compiled by a number of enthusiasts. You may find more here https://www.facebook.com/groups/1620875238056614/

[Joda87]

Many thanks!!

I found also an interesting thread on Forum der Wehrmacht about the same matter:

https://www.forum-der-wehrmacht.de/i...geschwader-26/

It's interesting to know if both these aircrafts where lost in Heraklion sector, (or, if not, what is the second aircraft hit there):

- von Stetten, He 111 H-5, Werknummer 3843, "1H+ZP" (laut der aktuellen Geschwaderchronik "Die Spur des Löwen": "1H+EP") und gehörte der 6./KG 26 an. Bordschütze Gefr. Hans Budelist kam ebenfalls ums Leben.
- Tönnesmann, He 111 H-5, Werknummer 3953, "1H+MP" (laut der aktuellen Geschwaderchronik "Die Spur des Löwen": "1H+EN") und gehörte der 5./KG 26 an.

The forum guy Jafü Mittelrhein list Gefr.Hans Budelist as crew member of He 111 3853, instead of Franz Hudelist. Which one is the correct name?

Thanks in advance