Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 13th April 2007, 21:34
Luc Vervoort Luc Vervoort is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Belgium
Posts: 538
Luc Vervoort is an unknown quantity at this point
18/05/1940 Do17 shot down by French WWI veteran

Hi !

A few days ago I purchased the excellent Avions Hors serie nr.20 - Les As Français de 1939-1940, première partie: d'Accart à Lefol by C.Cony and Alain Coste (publisher Lela Presse)

On page 8 and 9 they give in great detail data about Commandant Marc Ambrogi. This pilot born on June 8, 1896 shot down (together with Lt Bouysse and S/C Corrin) a Do17P on 18/05/1940. This pilot scored his first victory 23 years earlier (in 1917).

Who can supply me details about this Do17P and his crew ?
(On page 9 of the above mentioned publication a photograph of the Luftwaffe plane is published.)

Many thanks and best regards

Luc
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 13th April 2007, 21:50
robert robert is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 1,918
robert is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 18/05/1940 Do17 shot down by French WWI veteran

Hi Luc,

it was probably Do 17P from the 2(F)/14 - crew: Lt.Alexander Schreiner (FF) KIA, Fw.Hans Eggers (BO) KIA and Fw. Otto Seefeldt (BF) KIA.
Source: Les Victories de l`Aviation ... Part 2.

Regards

Robert
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 13th April 2007, 22:45
Luc Vervoort Luc Vervoort is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Belgium
Posts: 538
Luc Vervoort is an unknown quantity at this point
18/05/1940 Do17 shot down by French WWI veteran

Hi Robert !

Many thanks for your prompt reply.

Checked the Volksbund website and the 3 crewmembers you mentioned are buried at the German War Grave Cemetery at Lommel. They mention as first name for fw Seefeldt Wilhelm.

Best regards

Luc
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 13th April 2007, 23:17
robert robert is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 1,918
robert is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 18/05/1940 Do17 shot down by French WWI veteran

Hi Luc,

thanks for the correction.

Regards

Robert
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 14th April 2007, 09:54
Peter Cornwell's Avatar
Peter Cornwell Peter Cornwell is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cambridge, UK
Posts: 1,451
Peter Cornwell is on a distinguished road
Re: 18/05/1940 Do17 shot down by French WWI veteran

Luc,

Robert is right to say the Do17 mentioned was only 'probably' shot down by Lt Bouysse, Cdt Ambrogi, and S/C Corrin of GC I/8. Engaged east of Le Cateau and pursued to south of Cambrai only to come down at Montigny-le-Tilleul (south-west of Charleroi) doesn't seem too likely.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 14th April 2007, 12:19
Luc Vervoort Luc Vervoort is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Belgium
Posts: 538
Luc Vervoort is an unknown quantity at this point
18/05/1940 Do17 shot down by French WWI veteran

Hi Peter,

The distance between Cambrai and Montigny-le-Tilleul is approx. 100 km approx 60 m). The unit is mentioned as 2(F)/14. Is this correct or was it 2(H)/14 ?

Best regards from sunny Belgium

Luc
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 14th April 2007, 16:59
Peter Cornwell's Avatar
Peter Cornwell Peter Cornwell is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cambridge, UK
Posts: 1,451
Peter Cornwell is on a distinguished road
Re: 18/05/1940 Do17 shot down by French WWI veteran

Hello Luc,

I have 4.(F)/14.

Peter
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Friendly fire WWII Brian Allied and Soviet Air Forces 803 8th July 2023 15:47
French books on the 1939-1940 fighting Hawk-Eye Books and Magazines 6 9th April 2005 22:11
Fighter pilots' guts Hawk-Eye Allied and Soviet Air Forces 44 8th April 2005 14:25
Fighter pilots chicken? Hawk-Eye Allied and Soviet Air Forces 7 26th March 2005 13:17
Seeking *reliable* sources for French AF ops 1936-June 1940 lritger Allied and Soviet Air Forces 28 24th February 2005 18:56


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 23:02.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net