IAR-80 "le Heros meconnu"

[Blue-Max]

Some sample pages from the book to give you a taste of it ....

[Jukka Juutinen]

Originally Posted by CJE

Language may be a problem or not.
I possess books and magazines in 14 different languages, most of them I can't read.
There are photographs, many "self-explanating" or with captions where I can pick up a word or two, tables I can understand...
Language will never deter me from buying a book if the subject matches my interest.

But obviously you are interested in the illustrations whereas I am not. I haven´t bought a single book or magazine solely due to photos (leaving out material of a "certain" genre) if it is in a language I don´t speak. I prefer to read books. Apart from the Anatomy of the Ship-series, it is the text that decides whether a book is good or not, not the illustrations.

[CJE]

Jukka,

I understand your point of view.
But photographs never lie!
However good is a text, if it is not purported by photographic evidence, you may have a reasonable doubt.

Chris

[Blue-Max]

Sometimes 1 photo = 1000 words ...

[Peter D Evans]

Hi there Blue-Max

Your wasting your time my friend... if its not published in English, printed on certain paper with specific text and column numbers, or (God help the authors) its published by Chevron/Classic/Ian Allan, then our dear friend Jukka just isn't interested. He also really needs to seek professional help with his anti-Chevron/Classic rhetoric. Their books don't appear by magic and I'm bu**ered if any of their titles I have are anywhere near being just made up of "pretty pictures". But then again experience has taught me that he is passing comment on books that he has either not got or not even seen. How anybody can see that as being constructive is really beyond me!

Anyway, I digress, thanks for taking the time to provide the page samples as it indeed looks very interesting The authors should be congratulated and applauded for the time and effort put into getting this book into any language...

Cheers

Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

[Jukka Juutinen]

Originally Posted by CJE

Jukka,

I understand your point of view.
But photographs never lie!
However good is a text, if it is not purported by photographic evidence, you may have a reasonable doubt.

Chris

But how do you describe e.g. the handling and performance of the IAR-80 with only photos? Those the are main things I am interested in this aeroplane, not e.g. colours and markings.

[Jukka Juutinen]

Peter, you are terribly mistaken. I mostly like Ian Allan books if they follow the style of the Midland imprint. E.g. the Aerofax series is laid out superbly and do have greater amount of text than Chevron´s average book.

And Peter, tell me when has Classic last time done a book in which at least 50% of the contents is text? Classic has had one superbly laid out book (Erik Pilawskii´s one) and couple of good ones (Me 264, Do 335) but too many poorly done ones.

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Jukka Juutinen

... tell me when has Classic last time done a book in which at least 50% of the contents is text?

Well, at 85,000 words + captions + index over 208 pages, my Ghost Bombers must have come close and Dan O'Connell's Me 262 Production Log undoubtedly passed your benchmark with ease but since they were published by Classic I expect you still found reasons to hate them.

But Jukka, we get the message by now: hardly any aviation history books are to your liking; you can't or won't write your own; and you can't or won't risk your own money on publishing something that would meet your exacting standards.

[CJE]

That's something I can hardly understand.
Because, IMHO, Classic and Shiffer are the best publishers of the Anglo-Saxon world: prestigious signatures, superb layouts, excellent colour profiles, original and well-reworked photographs...
Who can ask for more?

CJE

[Jukka Juutinen]

Well Nick, I forgot the Ghost Bombers which is definitely one of the best Classics and a very good book all in all.

Dan´s book I have not seen, so I don´t comment on that except that the Me 262 (or any jet except the He 162) is not of great interest to me.