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Old 6th September 2008, 00:30
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Some parts of Fw 190

During exploration near Szczebrzeszyn (SE of Lublin, Poland, nearby ex luftwaffe airfield in Klemensów) I' ve found some parts of plane that had crashed here in summer of '44. Residents I' ve talked with were sure that it was German plane shot down by russian fighter. After receiving some hits german plane turned into a ball of flame, made a 3/4 of circle, and crushed into a gulley in nearbay coppice (pilot died in flames). Few years ago elements of plane such as wing, engine, gauges etc has been sold, so, excluding very lovable people ( ;-) ), I' ve nothing in local households. My metal detector found only small piece of that bird. I' m not sure it is Fw 190 but one of witnesses told me plane had one, round (that mean radial) engine so it could be truth. As I lend my camera I've got only paint pictures. One of the elements is especially interesting but it's bent and rusty.
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I also wonder which unit was this plane from. It's hard to outgess and I have no archive files. Could someone help?

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Old 9th September 2008, 01:05
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Re: Some parts of Fw 190

Hi

in connection with that matter I need to know something more about those pilots and will be very thankful if someone help:
HAKER Theodor, SG 77, 25.07.1944
KUNZ Werner, JG 11, 27.07.1944
HASSE Heinz, JG 54, 27.07.1944

One of them could be "the driver" of our plane. Especially I'm interested in places where they crashed.

And here you have photos I've promissed:

Part 1- weight: 100g, lenght: 28- 30 cm






Part 2- weight: 500g, lenght: 30- 35 cm





Part 3- weight: few grams, lenght about 10 cm, you can see rests of RLM




Part 4- weigh: 300g, lenght 12 cm, broken






Part 5- weight: 200g, lenght 25 cm






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Old 11th September 2008, 13:43
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Re: Some parts of Fw 190

11 JG11 Deblin raum X FW190A-8 730932 100 x Kunz werner MIA
6 JG54 PQ 12487 LFK FW190A 100 x Haase heinz Killed
PQ12487 Somewhere 5 km südl. Deblin

Where hv you found Haker ???

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Old 11th September 2008, 15:37
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Re: Some parts of Fw 190

RT

Definately looks like some parts from a BMW 801 radial engine - so Fw190 is a possibility as well as a few month types.

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Old 11th September 2008, 15:53
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Re: Some parts of Fw 190

Photo #4 appears to be the rocker arm head cover at the top of each cylinder.


http://www.fockewulf190.com/gallerie...Engine061.html
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Old 13th September 2008, 01:39
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Re: Some parts of Fw 190

First of all, I' d like to thank each of you! Frankly speaking after few days since I wrote this post and noone had asnwer me I've lost any hope to solve that mystery. Now I know why this forum is such incredible place- there is no question can hide

Our part 4th really looks like the part found by Tony. At least I'm sure those are parts of BMW 801 (previously I had to check all the elements of plane, thousands of parts and hundreds of pages of the manual). Now I need to recognize the rest. It could be difficult as those could be parts placed inside of engine. Impossible to notice in the photos.

@RT
Haker is from the Ostfront LW losses list I've got from my friend. As it turned out the pilot died in ... the West. So it must be a mistake in the document. Next two pilots you recognized are connected with Deblin. Unfortunately it's to far To have sure it was a pilot of our plane he should crashed between July and August '44 near places like Zamosc (Zamocz) or Klemensow.
So I have three men less to check
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Old 13th September 2008, 04:02
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Re: Some parts of Fw 190

This would be rather a ground attack aircraft from one of SGs. A number of them crashed in SE Poland.
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Old 13th September 2008, 12:32
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Re: Some parts of Fw 190

Hello Stuzajacy
i sent you a private message..

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Old 13th September 2008, 13:48
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Re: Some parts of Fw 190

Hello

@Franek

Your suspicions could be true. As I know, the accident happen when Klemensów airfield was in Russian hands. It's very possible that retreating Germans launched attack on enemy air base using SG unit.
Now I'm wondering is it possible to find out something more about that unit and plane?


@RT

Thanks for the message. You'll receive my reply soon.
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Old 13th September 2008, 23:17
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Re: Some parts of Fw 190

During the restoration of part nr 4 I've noticed some mysterious numbers and letters on the interior side. As it's broken and there is a lot of material missing I can only recognize this:

...L- UDAI (in fact it's something like I, C or L) - S ? - ? ?
...0- 30523
...01 2536 (small size)
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