Pre-war training unit codes

[obdl3945]

Doug...

Thanks for sharing your information. I appreciate that it's not a complete listing, but it certainly goes a long way to clarifying matter for me. I notice too, that up to and including the 'S7' code, they all seem - my sense of geography permitting - to fall within the pre-war Luftkreis areas, ie S1 (Posen) - Luftkreis 1 = HQ Königsberg, S3 (Dresden) - Luftkreis 3 = HQ Dresden etc. Only the 'S13' and 'S17' codings fall outwith this rule, seemingly.

Dénes...

Thanks, too, for your input. That must've been quite a survivor, that Ju86, if it was still sporting those markings in 1945... . I believe the double yellow fuselage bands eventually became specific to Blindflugschulen aircraft.

A big thank you to all who posted to this thread. Best wishes...

Paul

[Dénes Bernád]

Not quite a pre-war training code, nevertheless interesting:


[Source: eBay]

The Do 17 in the background sports the Vkz. 80+B14, while the one in the foreground 80+B3K (the first two digits are assumed).

Any plausible explanation for this apparent discrepancy?

[Doug Stankey]

Thanks for the obscure image!

The A/c with "B14" code is from 4.(F)/Aufkl.Gr. 18. There is another example of this code (80+F14) on page 71 of Aufklärer und Aufklärungsverbände der deutschen Luftwaffe 1935-1945 by Wadman et al.
On the other hand, the one "B3K" code is a bit tougher since the "K" means that it is from the post strike recon flight of the staff flight of the third gruppe of a bomber unit. Therefore I expect that it does NOT have "80" as the first part of the code.

This is all part of the fun of prewar codes!

Doug

[Stig Jarlevik]

Guys

Jet & Prop issue 2/2003 had an article about this.
I take it that neither you Paul or Doug has that article?

If you send me hagel.jarlevik@bredband.net your e-mails I will scan the article for you. Basically it seems to confirm what Doug is saying, but gives a lot more schools depending on the letter after the cross.

Cheers
Stig

[obdl3945]

Stig...

Thank you... PM with address on its way to you...

Regards

[Dénes Bernád]

Here is a photo of a rare Dornier Do J 'Wal' (?) seaplane with a code not listed by Doug, S6+H02, and yellow (?) rear fuselage ring [source: eBay]:

[Mrkvanek]

[citace=Denes Bernád;74453]Here je fotografie vzácný Dornier Do J ' Wal' (?) hydroplán s kódem neuvedeným od Douga, S6+H02, a žlutý (?) zadní trupový prsten [zdroj: eBay]:

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[Mrkvanek]

I am sorry for mistaken first entrance.
On photo isn't S6+H02, but S6+H82.
Detailed list groups you can find in journal JET + PROP 2/03

[Mrkvanek]

I am sorry for mistaken first entrance.
In the photograph isn't code S6+H02, but S6+H82.
Detailed code list groups you can find in the magazine JET + PROP 2/2003

[Dénes Bernád]

Well, the seller also mentioned the unit code a such...