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Re: He 111 crash at Ham-Noyon Area, France
Hi Larry,
By my reckoning 3627 could have been built Nov-Dec 1940, based on build dates for others around that WNr and sub-type. Regards, David |
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Re: He 111 crash at Ham-Noyon Area, France
-> Larry,
according to a french local that I was able to contact, the He 111 was brought down in the Ham area between the 11th & 14th of mai 1940. All of the pictures were taken at Eppeville, a town between Ham & Noyon (Somme Dep.), where the aircraft apparently was on "display". The location of where these pictures were taken is pretty much certain, because you can see a pub called "La Goutte D'Or" in the pictures I've posted and although the pub (unfortunately) isn't there anymore today , the building itself still excists. The pace is next to the crossroads between the "boulevard de la liberté" & "l'avenue André-Delorme". Kind regards, Rudi. |
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Re: He 111 crash at Ham-Noyon Area, France
David,
Thanks for your input on the W.Nr. Obviously this can't be the correct W.Nr. for this aircraft. We'll have to look at it more closely. See my PM. Rudi, thanks for updating us on your findings. At least now we've greatly narrowed our search, and I'm sure that we'll find the correct identity of this one. Does anyone else have any info on this one? Regards, |
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Re: He 111 crash at Ham-Noyon Area, France
Hi Larry,
Just sent two PMs, first one went but second bounced back due to you having a full quota of messages. I'll try and send second again later! Regards, David |
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Re: He 111 crash at Ham-Noyon Area, France
Hi...
Just noticed this additional photo, which I think came from one of Ed West's posting from many a long month ago. Regards... Paul Last edited by obdl3945; 9th April 2012 at 04:27. |
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Re: He 111 crash at Ham-Noyon Area, France
Paul,
Thanks for the additional photo. I think that this one ranks as one of most photographed He111s during the WC. This is about the 15th photo I've seen of it, but, ironicially, we still don't know the unit codes. With the help of Dr. David Ransome, we have settled on the W.Nr. as being 5627, which makes it an H-3. Any further input on this one is welcome. Regards, |
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Re: He 111 crash at Ham-Noyon Area, France
Now identified as that downed on May 10, 1940, as follows:
9./KG1 Heinkel He111H-3 (5627). Port engine damaged in attacks by P/O Parrott and Sgt Townsend of No.607 Squadron during sortie to attack airfields near Albert and starboard undercarriage collapsed on attempting forced-landing south-east of St Simon-Clastres airfield 3.00 p.m. BF Obergefr Aloys Freisberg captured wounded in head, admitted to Henri-Martin hospital in St-Quentin, FF Lt Kurt Neumann, BO Fw Hans Oppermann, BS Flgr Heinrich Pümpel and BM Flgr Willi Pfeiffer captured unhurt – all later released. Aircraft V4+ET 100% write-off. |
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Re: He 111 crash at Ham-Noyon Area, France
Hi Peter,
See this IWM photo ! C 1527 ![]() PHOTOGRAPHER: Hensser H (Mr) Royal Air Force official photographer TITLE: ROYAL AIR FORCE: FRANCE, 1939-1940. COLLECTION NUMBER: 4700-11 PERIOD: Second World War DATE: 10 May 1940 ACCESS: Unrestricted COLOUR / BLACK & WHITE: Black and white TYPE: Official photograph DESCRIPTION: Sightseers gather as RAF officers inspect crashed Heinkel 111H, 'V4-DT', of 9/KG1, which crash-landed near Albert. This was one of seven aircraft belonging to III/KG1 which were shot down by Hawker Hurricanes of Nos. 85 and 607 Squadrons RAF on the afternoon of 10 May 1940. The crew surrendered to the unarmed keeper of a British Great War military cemetery nearby. Best regards. Bernard. |
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