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Old 7th February 2011, 11:38
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Plane identification

My name is Eric Dufrasnes, I'm from Belgium, english not my mother tongue so please my many mistakes.
With my uncle, Jean Dufrasnes, we are making researchs on the aircrafts fallen in our area and specially on Harchies, west of Mons, Belgium.

Among the five crash sites, three are americans and two german.

- 20/11/43
According to D Caldwell in his studies of JG 26, a Me109 G3 (werknummer" 16300, Yellow 2, 11/JG26, Friedrich Hermann (Uffz.) ) was shot down on Harchies by P47 of the 78th FG.
We have the testimony of a women who helped the wounded pilot, and a good localisation of the crash.
We were told that the germans and/or hired local workers tried for a long time, without success, to recover the engine.
Or could it the pressurised cab ??

Late 42, early 43.
Memories are not clear but it was at the end of the year, in the night, between 1200 and 0100.
a german twin engine plane, the pilot ( ? ) and german soldiers have been seen the next morning near the wreck.

From testimonies , we have located the area where the plane end his course, small parts of a german plane can be found on the site :


- small broken aluminium part, with blue paint, with the letters MESSE ( for messerschmidt ??? )

- a circular cap d:5cm, h:2cm with the text
BAUART NACHBAU

SIEMENS LANGE

and FL.32653
B.M. 77 Vert 6g
40 V 25 A
Two pieces found.


- small constructor plate: 6.5cm x 1.3 cm

C. Lorenz AG [ ] –Tempelhof
Werk Nr 3821532 ? Baumuster UF. 10/E
Anf. Z. Ln. 2737B PfL III. 3/6038-1

- small constructor plate: 3.7cm x 1.8 cm

Baumuster U[
FL 27128[
Werck Nr 85628


- part of a german altimeter like the one on
http://www.adsandbrands.com/de/sujet...LITZ/coffset-0

the text : ]SS
]EGLITZ

is still visible.

- a bended dial, d:5cm, with the numbers 0,50,100,150,200,250.
At the bottom, a small window with the red text "fettfrei" .


7.92 ammo were also found, identified as a mix of standart, armorpiercing, incendiary and tracer bullets.
No 20 mm shells found

From the time of crash and parts found, I think an Me110 could be a possibility, perhaps a nightfighter.
On the german fighter gridmap that I have found, Harchies is in square PH

Could somebody help me to find more info on this plane.

Thank you very much.
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