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Old 11th March 2011, 17:21
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Re: Erich Hartmann - several questions

Johannes,

I've always been interested in Herr Bar's victories and I noticed that some of claims were just damaged, i.e., some of his claims over the Desert and Malta. He seemed to think that if he fired at a target, he always shot it down. Obviously, he did shot down some victims with a single volley."Baer always hits what he shoots at" may be true but he didn't always finish the job. Still, you're correct there are many which are correct and verified.
As far as JG-2 personnel, I think Hubert Huppertz, Hohagen and Lemke were "good" claimers with some inevitable overclaiming.
Guenther Rall is another ace whose abilities were verified with no doubt. In his last combat, he shot down two 56th FG P-47Ds but only claimed one.
Yes, I agree some Allied aces were also fraudsters. The amount of oveclaiming in some RAF/Commonwealth squadrons was truly spectacular.
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