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Old 5th December 2012, 00:33
Larry Hickey Larry Hickey is offline
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Re: 1939 Victories of JGr.152 ( I./ZG 52 )

Marius,

I presume that you have the information on P. 543 of Prien's JFV Vol 2, (purple) series) and the Ring/Boch victory lists and "estimated claims (also called "turks"), but in case you don't, here's what they say. Please note that in the case of the "estimated" claims listings, the few cases where we have been able to cross-checked these, they have so-far proven only about 50% reliable.

Your 08.09.39 is listed in Prien as an N.N. Hptm. Lessmann is listed as the pilot on Ring's "estimated" list for that date.

Your three 09.08.39 listings do not appear in Prien nor in either of Ring's confirmed or "Estimated Claims" lists.

Your 16.09.39 listing appears as a victory on both Prien and Ring lists.

Of your seven 24.09.39 listings, both Prien and Ring validate the Schnoor and Rosenkranz victories, and two other N.N. victories for a total of 5. The other two appear on Ring's "Estimated" list, one by Olblt. Graf Vitzthum for a Morane 406, and the other the same kind of plane by Fw. Oertel. Lt. Hagen isn't mentioned, nor are Lts. Elstermann or Grasser.

Your 27 and 28.09 listings are not covered by either source as either confirmed or estimated.

Your 30.09.39 listing for Liensberger is listed as confirmed by both Prien and Ring. Since we have Liensberger's FBs, I'm pretty sure that this one is solid.

So this is pretty much a mixed bag of information. I hope that this helps.

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