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Boris Safonov real claims and german losses
hi,
i see this info in some webs but there are many variations in the number of claims, which is the official number of victories? apart from that someone could confirm if these German casualties match their claims? 25+14? - 30+3? - 25+7? - 20+6? - 18+4?................ 24.06.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" 1 Ju.88A-5 WkNr 8173 R. Schellem – KIA 6./KG 30 27.06.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" G 1/2Hs.126 WkNr 3395 Herbert Kem – KIA (G) 1.(H)/AGr 32 *14.07.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" ? Bomber *14.07.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" ? Bomber 16.07.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" 2 Hs.126 ** 17.07.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" 3 Ju.87R-1 WkNr 5461 Rolf Bansbach (¿?) IV.(St)/LG 1 *17.07.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" ? He.111H WkNr 3749 Heinz Feldmann (?) I./KG 26 18.07.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" 4 Ju.88 25.07.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" 5 Ju.88A-4 WkNr 3387 K. Gunther + 3 (MIA) II./KG 30 *27.07.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" ? Ju.88A-4 *27.07.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" ? Ju.88A-4 05.08.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" 6 Bf.109E-7 WkNr 3227 unk (damaged) 1./JG 77 06.08.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" 7 Ju.88A-5 WkNr 2424 F. Meinhof - KIA I./KG 30 -6.08.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" ? 1/2Bf.109 I./J.G.77?? (G) ** 09.08.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" 8 Ju.88A-5 WkNr 3468 Heinz Burkert – KIA I./KG 30 09.08.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" G 1/2Ju.88A-5 WkNr 3351 H. Schilling (G) (¿?) I./KG 30 09.08.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" G Group Ju.88A-5 09.08.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" G Group Ju.88A-5 *23.08.1941 73 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" ? He.111H-5 WkNr 3691 G. Wilhelm + 3 (MIA) Stab./KG 26 23.08.1941 74 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" 9 1/2Ju.88 (G) ** *26.08.1941 75 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" ? 1/2Ju.88A-6 WkNr 3467 Desconocida (G) (¿?) I./KG 30 27.08.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" 10 Hs.126 WkNr 4262 Heinrich Steller – KIA 1.(H)/AGr 32 27.08.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" G 1/2Bf.109 II./J.G.77?? (G) ** *02.09.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" ? 1/2Bf.109 (G) ** 09.09.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 13" 11 Ju.87R-2 WkNr 5962 Hans Werner - KIA 10.(St)/LG 1 15.09.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 11" 12 Bf.110C-4 WkNr 2125 H-H. Hoffmann – KIA 1.(ZG)/JG 77 15.09.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 11" 13 Ju.87R-4 WkNr 5425 Gerhard Helwig - KIA IV.(St)/LG 1 15.09.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 11" 14 Hs.126 ** 15.09.1941 72 SAP – SF I-16 Tip 24 "White 11" G Group Bf.109 17.12.1941 78 IAP – SF Hurricane IIB S/N BN233 15 Bf.109E-7 WkNr 4081 Alfred Jacobi - WIA 14./JG 77 31.12.1941 78 IAP – SF Hurricane IIB S/N BN233 16 He.111H-5 WkNr 4357 E. Roithmayer - KIA 1./KG 26 *17.05.1942 2 GSAP – SF P-40E BuNo 41-13531 ? Bf.109F-4 WkNr 10177 W. Pfränger (POW) II./JG 5 17.05.1942 2 GSAP – SF P-40E BuNo 41-13531 17 Ju.88A-4 WkNr 142062 W. Teichmann – KIA I./KG 30 30.05.1942 2 GSAP – SF P-40E BuNo 41-13531 18 Ju.88A-4 WkNr 1760 Siegfried Scharff – KIA 3./KG 30 30.05.1942 2 GSAP – SF P-40E BuNo 41-13531 19 Ju.88A-4 WkNr 430244 unk 3./KG 30 30.05.1942 2 GSAP – SF P-40E BuNo 41-13531 20 Ju.88A-4 WkNr 142068 Fritz Müller – KIA (¿?) II./KG 30 info from: http://www.rkka.es/Otros_articulos/2...v_ARTICULO.htm http://www.redbanner.co.uk/History/a...v/safonov.html http://cieldegloire.com/015_safonov_b_f.php many thanks regards
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