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Old 1st January 2014, 19:53
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Re: German overclaims in the East. Hartmann and others...

That doesn't always mean that an aircraft "reported as shot down by ZA" did not get shot down also by a German fighter. I've ran across two Il-2 reported by Soviet records as shot down by AAA in 1943 that actually fell to fighters of JG 54 afterwards.
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