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Old 29th January 2006, 00:30
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Re: Huge Luftwaffe Victories over USAAF?

Mike - I don't have that set. What were primary sources on losses?

I bounce back and forth from Group histories on microfilm to MACR databases on armyairforces.com to Mighty 8th Diary to different group histories.

Like you I have about a 300 book reference library on WWII and about 30 for Korea/VietNam plus 40 reels of microfilm from Maxwell. At one time Jeff Ethell and I were gonna collaborate on 8th Fighter Command, pool our respective notes on the 4th and 355th then work together on the rest. I got pretty deep on the losses, but there was no website for MACR's - we were going to have to work the cards and fische.

How can I get a copy of the Andrews set?

BTW, we still have a gap between Andrews and the other sources.

on the 10th I have MACR's for 7 Macr's on the 78th. The microfilm for 78th FG (not the 82/83/84FS have a total of 10 lost, 7 to fighters/2 to flak and one to a mid air over England. I've loaned out my Price book on the 78th so can't use taht today for another peek.

I have to dig up my 353 stuff but Miller has 8 air losses and the Macr database has 7 macrs for the 353rd on the 6-12 bad day (but also claimed 16 on two separate missions that day).. it looks like this mission will rank right up there on the worst single Squadron loss with 6 for the 350th.

As for the 4 March fiasco there was a lot of bad weather involved.. I think Heinz Knocke related four confirmed on the 363rd before they 'escaped' into cloud cover but surely there were other units in the area.

It does make for interesting conversations.. I know Miller used USAF and 8th AF Historical Research records along with Damick - which is why I am curious to see if Andrews cut thes facts in different ways?
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