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Old 20th July 2015, 17:12
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Re: Soviet air victory claims on 17.6.1944 over Perkjärvi (Finnish front)?

On Puhakka's crash landing at Heinjoki a/f, the time was 12.00 according to his combat record and Haapanen's book but 12.30 according to the accident investigation board report. And who hit his MT-419? As I wrote according to his report to the accident investigation board the rear gunner of the Il he shot down but according to his combat report he first shot down one Il-2 and then attacked others but in spite of long bursts got no additional kills and one of the rear gunners of those other Il-2s hit his plane. One of those cases where extra info only complicates the case.

According to Heimo Lampi, who seems to be the only one who saw the collision of MT-227 and MT-229 it happened near the end of the combat. He landed at 7.40 according to his log book. Lampi had claimed one La-5 before the collision and turned back almost immediately after the collision when the ground control told him that others were already returning. So it seems that the collision happened later than at 6.50. The distance between Perkjärvi and the Lappeenranta a/f (the base of the HLeLv 24 at that time) was appr. 85 km, so maybe the correct collision time was c. at 7.20 - 7.30. So not so much off from the Capt Yermakov's claim time.


Hello GC
the Finns usually gave t/o and landing times, which they probably got from the flight control.

Juha

Last edited by Juha; 22nd July 2015 at 13:46. Reason: added the crash landing time given in Puhakka's combat report and in Haapanen's book
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