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Old 7th January 2020, 00:44
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Re: Hartmann: claims vs. victories

Russell, just some 17 VA losses to fighters on December 24, 1944:

17 VA, 189 ShAD, 707 ShAP, IL-2m3, S/N: 10270, lost at 11:07 local, after attacking German tanks in the Söréd-Bodajk-Mór area went missing, not seen again by their comrades. Pilot, Ml.lt. Nikolai Ivanovich Punkevich MIA, gunner, Vladimir Alexandrovich Zimin KIA. ~MATCHING III./SG.10 IL-2 claim at 11:05, - if German time is local!

17 VA, 189 ShAD, 707 ShAP, 2nd Sq., IL-2m3, S/N: 11350, ‘23’, lost at 11:03 local, in Bodajk-Mór area. Combat with Bf 109. Gunner, Semen Mihailovich Voronin killed, pilot, Ml.Lt. Anatolii Nikolaevich Denisenko head-injured, crashlanded at Szekszárd en route home. MATCHING I./JG.53 IL-2 claim at 11:03 - 100%!!!!, - if German time is local.

17 VA, 306 ShAD, 672 ShAP, IL-2m3, S/N: 1889801, fell at Bodajk-NE, 3 km at 8:30 local, from 600 m. Group of 20 IL-2s, plane burned. Hit by Bf 109. Pilot, 3rd Sq. commander, Nikita Nikolaevich Dyakonov (HSU!!!) and gunner, Alexandr Pavlovich Pogrebnikov were KIA. Confusing story, - some say they crashlanded and burned back at Szabadszállás airbase, buried there, etc.

17 VA, 189 ShAD, 707 ShAP, IL-2m3, S/N: 11368, lost at Fehérvárcsurgó-W, between 16:05-16:20 local. Attacked by fighters over the target area of Bodajk-Mór. Never seen again. Pilot, Genadii Vasilevich Valuev and gunner, Yurii Ivanovich Kasitsin were MIA.

17 VA, 295 IAD, 31 IAP, La-5FN, S/N: 39210807 was hit by fighter near Bicske at 13:25 (11:25 local), crashlanded back at the Kiskunlacháza airbase. Frame written off, engine handed over for repair, pilot, Ml.Lt. Nikolai Semenovich Bordyugov was injured.

17 VA, 295 IAD, 31 IAP, La-5FN, S/N: 39214036, lost while supporting their troops at the city of Székesfehérvár (in German: Stuhlweissenburg) At 13:25 (11:25 local), on their way, 8 La-5, led by Yakubovskii in combat with fighters (Bf 109s?) and Ju 87 Stukas near Bicske. Pilot, Lt. Anatolii Alexandrovich Lyubimov was MIA, probably downed by Bf 109.

17 VA, 295 IAD, 164 IAP, La-5FN, S/N: 3810413, or 39214355, or 41210113. At 15:20 (13:20 local) 4 La-5, led by Volodin covering 8 IL-2 at 600 m over Zali??? Combat with a pair of Bf 109s. Pilot, Nikolai Stepanovich Lyadov was MIA.

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