Hartmann: claims vs. victories

[HGabor]

Craig,
I agree 100% on the misidentification of planes. When I read: 'pair of Fw 190s...' I always think they were in fact Bf 109s for 99%, etc... Fw 190s usually flew in larger groups against ground targets, did not really attack fighters, etc... And not many claims are known by them either.

Known Hungarian claims on November 17, 1944 in joint operation with JG 52:

- A-20 Boston - Capt. Pottyondy László (~Bf 109G-6, 'blue 14', Commander of 102/2. Sq., in pair with Hartmann from Budaörs airfield) - Confirmed

- 2 IL-2m3 - 1Lt. Flóznik Ervin (Bf 109G, 102/1.Sq.) - (not investigated yet, probably against 4 GvShAD) - almost certainly overclaims involved

- 2 IL-2m3 - Capt. Hedrey Szilárd (Bf 109G, 102/1.Sq.) - (not investigated yet, probably against 4 GvShAD) - almost certainly overclaims involved

- A-20 Boston - Cpl./Maj. Buday Lajos (Bf 109, 'borrowed' from 101/2. Sq.) - Overclaim

- 37 mm flak battery at Adács - Horváth Sándor szkv. (~Fw 190F-8, 'W-+521', Hung. 102/1. ground attack Sq.) - no more info to check

Gabor