looking for info on a crashed HE111 from II/KG53

[Thomas H]

Hi Paul, Thanks for your reply!

Originally Posted by obdl3945

I think the aircraft in your photo is A1+CP. My reasoning for this is as follows:

I don't know if the code A1+CP is unique or that it was used again later in the war? This thread http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=7795 lists the A1+CP as loss on the 28.8.1944 (6th staffel)

Originally Posted by obdl3945

The unit emblem under the cockpit has a dark band underneath the bomb. I believe this was red, and indicitive of the II.Gruppe, whose I/D colour was red. I am also aware, however, that at least one source suggests it as being the unit badge for the entire Geschwader, but this would then beg the question - why the need for a red horizontal band?

I only know this emblem with the red band, but do know it with two different birds. I don't know if a different bird was used by a different staffel? And did Stab staffel have an own emblem?

Originally Posted by obdl3945

If, for a moment, we agree that it is II.Gruppe, ............possibility of the letter 'C' being yellow as well, and therefore suggestive of the fact that the last letter would be the 6.Staffel indicator, 'P'.:

Thanks for clearing this, I wasn't aware of the colour meaning. I see that there is still a lot to learn for me on the kennung from planes.