Indonesian Dakota shot down by Dutch Neptune

[phasselgren]

Hi Brian,

I found the date of this claim on Wikipeda: "On 2 September, three C-130 set off from Jakarta for Peninsula Malaysia, flying low to avoid detection by radar. The following night (3 September), two of the C-130 managed to reach their objective with their onboard PGT paratroopers, who jumped off and landed around Labis in Johore (about 100 miles north of Singapore), while the remaining one C-130 crashed into the Malacca Straits trying to evade interception by an RAF Javelin FAW 9 launched from RAF Tengah."

...but according to the RAF Historical Society Journal 13 (http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research...0Indonesia.pdf) no claim was made. "the pilot overshot as the target speed was so slow and he failed to regain contact."

Looks like a real mystery.

Cheers,
Peter

[phasselgren]

Hi,

Back to the original question. I found the pilots name with the help of Google´s translator when I read about the Dutch Submarine Hunter Friesland (http://www.collectie.legermuseum.nl/...n/i001999.html): "On May 17, 1962 shot the pilot of the Naval Air H. Moekardanoe his Neptune Dakota down an Indonesian who then could make an emergency landing at sea. The seven crew of the aircraft were picked up by the Friesland and Fak Fak put ashore. "
You get soem "funny" translations when using this tool.

I am still interested in more details.

Regards
Peter

[Leendert]

Peter,

Dutch is my native tongue, so perhaps I can add some more info after browsing a bit on Dutch websites about the Neptune vs. Dakota encounter. No funny translations here, I hope!

The Neptune (serial 207) was patrolling on the south side of New Guinea, keeping an eye out for Indonesian Migs and Mitchells. The RO then reported a contact in the Kaimana area that was interpreted as para droppings by Indonesian a/c. The contact was 110 miles away however, so a hard catch for the Neptune.
But the tactical coordinator on the Dutch destroyer "Groningen" set out a course and with the two jet engines of the Neptune engaged, they could increase the interception speed. After a while a C-47 was sighted and two short bursts with 20-mm cannons set the left wing of the transport on fire.
The Indonesian crew of seven ditched perfectly and could climb in dinghies, to be picked up by the Dutch destroyer "Friesland" later on the day.
The Dutch pilots were Rein Lub and LTZ 1 Harry Moekadanoe.

That same 17 May 1962 an Indonesian Mitchell was intercepted by another Dutch Neptune (with guidance by the Dutch destroyer "Limburg"), but the Neptune's cannons somehow failed and the Mitchell got away.

Best regards,

Leendert

[phasselgren]

Originally Posted by Leendert

Peter,

Dutch is my native tongue, so perhaps I can add some more info after browsing a bit on Dutch websites about the Neptune vs. Dakota encounter. No funny translations here, I hope!

The Neptune (serial 207) was patrolling on the south side of New Guinea, keeping an eye out for Indonesian Migs and Mitchells. The RO then reported a contact in the Kaimana area that was interpreted as para droppings by Indonesian a/c. The contact was 110 miles away however, so a hard catch for the Neptune.
But the tactical coordinator on the Dutch destroyer "Groningen" set out a course and with the two jet engines of the Neptune engaged, they could increase the interception speed. After a while a C-47 was sighted and two short bursts with 20-mm cannons set the left wing of the transport on fire.
The Indonesian crew of seven ditched perfectly and could climb in dinghies, to be picked up by the Dutch destroyer "Friesland" later on the day.
The Dutch pilots were Rein Lub and LTZ 1 Harry Moekadanoe.

That same 17 May 1962 an Indonesian Mitchell was intercepted by another Dutch Neptune (with guidance by the Dutch destroyer "Limburg"), but the Neptune's cannons somehow failed and the Mitchell got away.

Best regards,

Leendert

Thanks Leendert, just what I needed. Can you confirm if Harry Moekadanoe was the first pilot?

Regards,
Peter