A new picture of Bf 109 G-10 "Yellow 66" at Köthen

[harrison987]

Hi Fernando and Marc,

The K baggage compartment (hole and hatch), were made in completely difefrent shape than the G. To be honest out of all the photos I have seen, I have never seen a G verson with a K-style baggage compartment.

I do not mean sinply the lack of battery box, but the actual shape and side angles of the hatch and compartment itself. Please share photos of these G-models, as this is something I have never heard of or seen before....interesting...

So...to confrim, not a DIANA bird, but rather WNF itself in Austria...correct?

Mike

[veltro]

Originally Posted by harrison987

The K baggage compartment (hole and hatch), were made in completely difefrent shape than the G. To be honest out of all the photos I have seen, I have never seen a G verson with a K-style baggage compartment.

I do not mean simply the lack of battery box, but the actual shape and side angles of the hatch and compartment itself.

Here's the quoted photo and a detail of a G-10's baggage hole.



At a second, more accurate glance, I do admit there are differences in shape (at least the former is wider and lacks the angled corners on top), differences confirmed by looking at other wrecked K-4, so I agree.

Originally Posted by harrison987

So...to confrim, not a DIANA bird, but rather WNF itself in Austria...correct?

Yes, it has to be. After all, it is a further proof that a complete an thorough study about the late G-series is still to come...

[harrison987]

HI Fernando!!

Sooooooooo...is it possible the 109 in the first photo, is in-fact a K-4, with secondary gear doors removed? Unfortunately, I have not seen the other photos of that aircraft (such as werk number on tail and such)...but for sure that hole is of the K-type...



Mike

[F19Gladiator]

This image shows that the inspection hatch on the fuselage is located as with the Bf109G series and we can hence drop the K-4 theory.

Br
Goran
(image is from an expired eBay auction, cropped and enlarged)

[harrison987]

Hi,

You are confusing Baggage Compartment with Radio Hatch. The baggage compartment is the hatch behind the pilot's head in the cockpit. The radio hatch is one of the fuselage with the first aid kit.

I am referring to the aircraft in the second photo, which does not prove in any way that it is the same aircraft in the first photo (Yellow 66).

As it has a K-4 baggage compartment and NOT G-type, it "appears" to be a K-4 with the secondary gear door covers removed...and not "Yellow 66".

If no evidence exists confirming the 2nd pic (front cockpit shot) IS 100% Yellow 66, then I would suspect it is not - unless one can find a pic that shows both the "66" and this K-4 style baggage compartment (like a 3/4 view from the front), of course...

To date, I have never seen a photo of an Me109 with the K-4 style baggage compartment...or a K-4 with a G style compartment...


Mike

[F19Gladiator]

Dear Mike,
I don't believe I'm confusing the 'Baggage Compartment' with the 'Radio Hatch' as I'm only commenting on the position of the latter as seen on the image of what has to be "Yellow 66", which I've posted above. This makes it a Bf109G with quite some certainty in my opinion.
Br
Goran

[harrison987]

Hi Goran,

I am not questioning "Yellow 66", which is obviously a G-10 based on the first photo.

I am questioing the unknown aircraft in the second photo, that "appears" to be K-4...not a G, due to the baggae compartmenr.

No comment was made on Yellow 66 being a K-4...




Mike