Galland special 109F-2 W.Nr.6711

[veltro]

Many thanks for the exceptional link!

It is also fascinating the way apparently used to label the two different "special" F-2s, that is with a number over the fuselage markings of Geschwader Kommodore (until another photo comes out, we must suppose that the F-2 with the wing MG FF 20mm was No. 2...).

[Flavio]

Originally Posted by veltro

Many thanks for the exceptional link!

It is also fascinating the way apparently used to label the two different "special" F-2s, that is with a number over the fuselage markings of Geschwader Kommodore (until another photo comes out, we must suppose that the F-2 with the wing MG FF 20mm was No. 2...).

Grazie Ferdinando,

I am doing some researches about Galland's 109 E and F types: right now these are the F-2 planes I suppose flown by Galland:

1- W.Nr. 6714 "<-+-" with 60 kill marks; standard armament.
2- W.Nr. 6750 "<-+-" with 69+15 kill marks; wing cannons. (4 dec 1941 cerimony).
3- W.Nr. unk "<-+-", MG 131s in the cowling, probably 69+15 kill marks like plane 2 (4 dec 1941 cerimony).
4- W.Nr. 6711 "<-1+-" with 94 kill marks; MG 131s in the cowling.
5- W.Nr.5776, "-+-" standard armament. probably no kill marks, crash landed on 21 June '41.
6- W.Nr. unk, "<-+-", MG 131s in the cowling but not plane 3 or 4.
7- W.Nr. unk, markings unk, MG 131s in the cowling but not plane 3, 4, 6
8- W.Nr 6713, no photos know, crash landed on 21 June '41.

Plane 6 and 8, or 7 and 8 could be the same plane.

So, as far as I know, Galland flew at least five different special 109F-2s, four with MG 131 cowling mounted and one with wing cannons.

Please may you add some details about the photo with wing cannon you quote?

Ciao,
Flavio

[veltro]

I am not quoting any other photo but the one you pointed at.

The only photographs I know of the wing cannon F-2 were those of the 4 dec 1941 ceremony which, AFAIK, were first published in the 'Messerschmitt "O-Nine" Gallery' book by Tom Hitchcock of 1973 (pagg. 84-85).

[mmoustaf]

Planes 3 and 4 might have been the same machine, they wear same mottling near the canopy. It looks as though Mickey mouse was painted later just before the ceremony.

[Flavio]

Originally Posted by mmoustaf

Planes 3 and 4 might have been the same machine, they wear same mottling near the canopy. It looks as though Mickey mouse was painted later just before the ceremony.

Hi mmoustaf,

I post two photos: on the left plane 3 (source Jagdwaffe Vol4 sect1), on the right plane 4 (E-bay auction): I suspect these were two different planes as the mottling around the canopy doesn’t seem the same.
Any way regarding plane 3 you are right , Mickey mouse was painted later just before the ceremony as there are photos of Plane 3 without the emblem.
Regards
Flavio