15.8.40 Marlsham-Heath Erpr.Gr.210 vs 1 & 17 Sqdn question

[robert]

Hi,

both squadrons were too late. They fought most likely with ZG26 and JG51.

Robert

[John Vasco]

Originally Posted by robert

Hi,

both squadrons were too late. They fought most likely with ZG26 and JG51.

Robert

Both Squadrons were too late to prevent the bombing of Martlesham Heath, but were not too late to intercept Erprobungsgruppe 210 AFTER the raid. Can you tell me your source for the likely involvement of ZG 26 and JG 51?

[robert]

Originally Posted by John Vasco

Both Squadrons were too late to prevent the bombing of Martlesham Heath, but were not too late to intercept Erprobungsgruppe 210 AFTER the raid. Can you tell me your source for the likely involvement of ZG 26 and JG 51?

And can you tell me what losses were suffered by Erp.Gr.210 in this likely engagement?
Look at claims reported e.g. by III./ZG26, I,II./JG51. They were detailed to fly fighter sweeps in attack areas of KG2, KG3 and Erp.Gr.210 and III./ZG26 was most likely flying direct escort for one of those units.

Regards

Robert

[John Vasco]

Originally Posted by robert

And can you tell me what losses were suffered by Erp.Gr.210 in this likely engagement?
Look at claims reported e.g. by III./ZG26, I,II./JG51. They were detailed to fly fighter sweeps in attack areas of KG2, KG3 and Erp.Gr.210 and III./ZG26 was most likely flying direct escort for one of those units.

Regards

Robert

One Bf 110 damaged (Lt. Erich Beudel). All attacking aircraft of Erpr. Gr. 210 returned to Calais-Marck.

Sorry, Robert, 'most likely' cuts no ice with me at all. Do you have a source for direct escort to Erpr. Gr. 210 for the Martlesham Heath raid? Fighter sweeps in attack areas could mean hundreds of square miles quite easily, and then multiplied by the third dimensions of many thousands of feet...

I ask all of this, not to demolish any point you make, but rather to know of the exact source, because those Erpr. Gr. 210 crew that I interviewed, all said that that raid was conducted without escort, and the 3. Staffel Bf 109s waded into the Hurricanes that managed to get at the formation following the attack (interview with Hintze, in particular).

[robert]

Hi,

this is my opinion. I know that III./ZG26 and II./ZG26 were airborne at this time and in rule twin-engined fighters were deployed rather on direct escort, whilst single-engined were detailed to fly mostly fighter sweeps (around this time). Of course I have no hard evidence that they were supporting Epr.Gr.210 - I think that the latter acted individually.
III./ZG26 became engaged with fighters - it could be also that one of its Bf110s was claimed by 1 Sqn.
And I don`t not know that Bf110 of Beudel was damaged by flak or fighter or it was just technical failure.

Warm Regards

Robert

[Rob Romero]

Which losses fit well with claims by Priller and Haase?

TIA

Rob Romero