New Bf109K-4 pictures

[S Sheflin]

Hello Marc-André,

Unless I am mistaken, this is not a photo of a K-4 taken at Prag in 1945, but rather, it is one of a series of G/AS’s photographed in France in 1944.

Steve Sheflin

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by S Sheflin

Hello Marc-André,

Unless I am mistaken, this is not a photo of a K-4 taken at Prag in 1945, but rather, it is one of a series of G/AS’s photographed in France in 1944.

Steve Sheflin

Steve, you're smack on the money! Actually, this picture is part of a four pictures set taken in an unknown French airfield sometimes in the autumn of 1944, and depicting a derelict Bf 109G, which precise subtype I'm not able to make out. Another E-bay ripp-off busted, as all were published way back in 1988 by Carl Hidebrandt's excellent Broken Eagle Volume 2, devoted to the Bf 109 G/K, Part one, p. 2 - 3. Original credit is given to Rutherford and Reynolds...

Thanks for making me check back those excelent Hildebrandt publications, which in turn made me stumble on more pictures of the Wertheim assembly line!

Cheers
Marc

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by Rasmussen

There isn't any known connection between Erla and Wertheim. Erla and the shifted factories were concentraded in Saxonia/Thuringia.

Best wishes
Rasmussen

Thanks Rasmussen. So which company did operate this final assembly line? I found more pictures of the assembly line in Carl Hildebrandt's Broken Eagles, vol. 2, devoted to the Bf109 G/K's, part one (Fighter pictorials, 1988, p. 9).

Cheers
Marc

[Cpt_Farrel]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Hello Cpt_Farrel,

No, I didn't. Thanks for pointing out. Does this necessarily mean we have other Bf 109 fusleages types here? the ones I can identify (8) are all K-4's...

Cheers
Marc

As far as I can see they're all K-4's - seems like whoever did the stencils obviously worked a lot on G frames earlier

[Fliegerhorst]

http://flyingart.twoday.net/

see Wertheim !

Obviously Pilot Riediger tested airplanes for RLM in Wertheim after assembly

[Fliegerhorst]

Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-6Y W-Nr. ?95??2
Mit FuG 16 ZY, Morane-Mast, Erla-Haube, normalem Seitenleitwerk aber hohem Sporn. RLM Abnahme, Wertheim Januar 1945. Die W-Nr. auf dem Seitenruder des Fotos ist schwer identifizierbar, sie könnte 95182 oder 195182 lauten.

[Charles Bavarois]

Hello Fliegerhorst,

Flugkaptän Anton Riediger indeed was a BAL-Abnahmeflieger first at Fieseler Kassel and later at Flugzeugwerke Mannheim (Flumann).

His flight-log has 31 acceptance-flights at Wertheim starting 13.06.1944 and ending 09.03.1945 with large gaps within. Most were repaired airframes, but the last one was a Bf 109 K-4, WNr. 333.972.

All Werknummern for Wertheim are within the known Werknummern-batches for Bf 109s. There is no a/c with a 195.xxx, 95.xxx or xxx.182 Werknummer reported.

HTH

Carl

[Fliegerhorst]

I would like to collect all the infos concerning Wertheim, since all infos get lost somewhen,

Here in Wertheim there is a collector, I will call him.

By the way, the Luftwaffe parade drum of Kommandantur Wertheim was lately sold in the internet

[Fliegerhorst]

this confirms the Flumann connection to Kreuzwertheim, Bavaria.
As I posted before there was the so called Flumann Halle, used by company Kümmerling after WW2. It was removed for a kinder garden.

Flumann had cooperation with company Stuhl Hofmann (furniture company, chairs), just beside the Flumann Halle, Hofmann also producing for Flumann.

Flumann, Erla, makes sense

By the way, see www.schlempertshof.de, Wertheim´s forgotten junior airport, direction Hardheim and also Neckarelz. "Dornberg airfield".

with own railway from Walldürn.

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by Fliegerhorst

Flumann, Erla, makes sense

Why and which?