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Old 15th September 2010, 16:18
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Re: F-86 vs MiG 15, the claims...

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The V-VS losses were 24 MiGs and the PLAAF loss 43, with a total of 67 MiG destroyed.
Worst day, and the record in the Korean war was the Jun 30, 1953 with 16 MiGs destroyed(14 PLAAF and 2 V-VS).
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What is your source for PLAAF losses? According to "Red Devils over Korean Sky" by I Seidov, PLAAF losses for June 53 were 11 MiGs and 7 pilots KIA.

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Old 16th September 2010, 01:23
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Re: F-86 vs MiG 15, the claims...

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Hi,

What is your source for PLAAF losses? According to "Red Devils over Korean Sky" by I Seidov, PLAAF losses for June 53 were 11 MiGs and 7 pilots KIA.

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Szymon
Well is a combination of differente sources, but the mentioned 11 PLAAF only losses for the whole month sound really too optimistic and that mean also a hipotetic a lot of overclaims by the USAF. Some 32 overclaims?
Actually this numbers are revised because the official one published some year before and still in many publications were biggest and mentioned 77 MiGs shot down this month!

After USAF claims, PLAAF MiGs were engaged the:

Jun 5 ,1953 (six MiGs shot down , a double for Vermont Garrison)

Jun 7 , 1953(three MiGs, included one for future astronaute Edwin Aldrin)

Jun 10, 1953(two MiGs for James Jabara)

Jun 18, 1953(three MiGs for Ralph Parr, Loonie Moore and Jabara)

Jun 24, 1953(eight MiGs , a double for Foster L. Smith and another for Vermont Garrison)

Jun 26, 1953(two MiGs for Thomas H. McQuade and Vermont Garrison)

Jun 29,1953(five MiGs for Nott, Howell, Palmer and Jensen all 51th FIW and John Granville-White of the RAF but assigned in the 51th FIW)

Jun 30, 1953(14 MiGs divided in: 12 for the 4th FIW and 2 for the 51th FIW)The two V-VS MIGs shot down this day were credited one to the 4th FIW and the other for a pilot of the RCAF assigned to the 51th FIW)

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