ID of Bf109 down on French Beach BoB?

[Larry Hickey]

Hello,

Thanks to all of you for your comments and posting the photo. I must admit, that I missed the earlier discussion about this photo on the LEMB Board, and the previous TOCH photo listing. My opinion is that I agree with Marek (Markus) that this is a 3.(J)/LG2 aircraft. This said after reviewing the relevant photos in the EOE DB. If other unit emblems have been overpainted, a plane coming back from a repair depot could explain that, and not be indicative of the current unit.

Regarding the speculation about this being one of the Marseille's planes, I thought that he was assigned to 1 Staffel, not 3 Staffel during this period. I think that, without further supporting evidence, that this is way too far a stretch for that conclusion.

Regards,

[ouidjat]

You're pleased to read this:

All Emil losses listed below - one of the machine from Apr-41 was coded 'yellow 7' per Wübbe. Don't remember which one specifically.
Bf 109E-4, 3579, MARSEILLE, Fhr. Hans-Joachim, 158, , 1.(J), LG 2, weiße, 14 +, CK+CT, , 02-Sep-40, Bruchlandung., , Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IV.2, p.399; Prien, JG 77, I, p.373; Mason, p.341; BoB, T&N, p.617, , Fl.Pl. Calais-Marck, 50%, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 5094, MARSEILLE, Fhr. Hans-Joachim, , , 1.(J), LG 2, , , , , 23-Sep-40, Luftkampf. Ditched into Kanal. F rescued., , Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IV.2, p.401; Prien, JG 77, I, p.393; Mason, p.408; BoB, T&N, p.656., , Kanal, 100%, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 5579, MARSEILLE, Fhr. Hans-Joachim, 158, , 1.(J), LG 2, , , , , 11-Sep-40, Notlandung after Luftkampf with Hurricane., Loss report says WNr.5797. Latest Prien says 5579., Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IV.2, p.399; Prien, JG 77, I, p.385; Mason, p.382; BoB, T&N, p.638, , Wissant, 75%, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 2032, MARSEILLE, Hans-Joachim, , , 3.(J), LG 2, , , , , 29-Oct-40, Bruchlandung after Luftkampf., Is this Marseille??, Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IV.2, p.401; Prien, JG 77, I, p. 416; Mason, p.465; BoB, T&N, p.703, Prien letter, Wissant, 25%, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, , MARSEILLE, Ltn. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, , , , , 14-Jun-41, Notlandung due to engine damage., RK, EL, S, Br., X.Fl.Korps/Afrika, Wübbe, Marseille, p.22, , eigenem Gebiet, b, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, , MARSEILLE, Ltn. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, , , , , 16-Jun-41, Notlandung due to Luftkampf over Tobruk. Blindlandung., RK, EL, S, Br., X.Fl.Korps/Afrika, Wübbe, Marseille, p.22, , Ain-el-Gazala, b, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, , MARSEILLE, Ofhr. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, , , , , 06-Apr-41, Flak. Safe landing., , Balkan, Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, V, p.374; Prien/Rodeike/Stemmer, Stab & I./JG 27, p.539, , Raum Laibach, b, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 1259, MARSEILLE, Ofhr. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, gelbe, 13 + (?), , , 20-Apr-41, Notlandung due to engine damage., , X.Fl.Korps/Afrika, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, V, p.374; Prien/Rodeike/Stemmer, Stab & I./JG 27, p.540; Scutts, Bf 109 Aces of NA & the Med, p.28, , bei Cahela, 80%, H, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 5160, MARSEILLE, Ofhr. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, gelbe, , , , 23-Apr-41, Injured in Bauchlandung due to Luftkampf with Hurricanes., , X.Fl.Korps/Afrika, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, V, p.374; Prien/Rodeike/Stemmer, Stab & I./JG 27, p.540; Wübbe, H.J. Marseille, p.136 photo, , Raum Tobruk, 100%, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, , MARSEILLE, Ofhr. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, gelbe, 6 +, , , 28-Apr-41, Claimed his 9th Abschusses, a Blenheim. His 2nd in NA., , Afrika, Wübbe, Marseille, p.138-39, , nordwestlich Tobruk auf See, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 1567, MARSEILLE, Ofhr. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, , , , , 21-May-41, Luftkampf with enemy fighters. Bruchlandung behind own lines., , X.Fl.Korps/Afrika, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, V, p.374; Prien/Rodeike/Stemmer, Stab & I./JG 27, p.540, , Raum Tobruk, 40%, F, , ,

coming from this thread here: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...ight=Marseille

Personnaly I wrote "FUNNY ... " in my last post.