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				Identity of RK & DKiG holder?
			 Hello to all, I am trying to identify the two Ju 88 aircrew, these two men both hold the DKiG and I am wondering if they were part of the same crew? The photo I believe was taken in Italy and came to me via a pilot of 1./(F)123 who was stationed there at the time with (F)122. Any help greatly appreciated. Melvin www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com Last edited by Melvin Brownless; 13th November 2011 at 18:25. | 
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				Re: Identity of RK & DKiG holder?
			 Hi to all,  Pilot identified on LEMB forum by two respected sources, the image shows; Major Orlowski, Helmuth * 07.08.1914 + 08.11.1943 Ritterkreuz am: 19.09.1943 als: Major Funktion: Kommandeur FernAufklGrp.122 Regards Melvin www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com | 
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				Re: Identity of RK & DKiG holder?
			 In case you don't have them - his known machines (WNr. 1067 is the much published machine usually attributed KG 30 and a highly decorated pilot whose name completely escapes me right now.) - Ju 88D-1, 1067, ORLOWSKI, Hptm. Helmuth (F)/HEIDENREICH, Oblt. Fritz (B), , , 1.(F), 120, schwarz, A6+HH, , , , Nov-41., Both RK., Norwegen, Meyer & Stipdonk, Von der Fliegerschule zum Einsatzverband, p.81 photo, , Fl.Pl. Stavanger-Sola, -, F, , , Ju 88D-1, 430593, ORLOWSKI, Major Helmut, , St., Stab (F), 122, , 4U+UH, , , 08-Nov-43, Gr.Kdr. MIA with crew due to enemy fighters., F RK., Lfl.2/Mittelmeer, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #12)-Vol.23, , nordostwärts Pescara, 100%, F, B Hptm. Karl-Heinz Hilbig & Bf Ofw. Albert Kelbsch, , | 
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				"Not Baumbach" is who you're thinking of.  n/t
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				Re: Identity of RK & DKiG holder?
			 From Air War Italy 1944–45 (Beale, D'Amico, Valentini): [Reconnaissance] HQ remained at Perugia from November 1943 and into 1944 and the unit — now composed of Stab FAGr. 122, 1.(F)/123, 2.(F)/122 and Westa 26 — was commonly known as "Gruppe Orlowski" after the Major in command … Orlowski was lost flying a Ju 88 in bad weather northeast of Pescara in November 1943, intercepted radio traffic suggesting he had fallen victim to two P-38s. | 
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				Re: Identity of RK & DKiG holder?
			 Many thanks Jim and Nick for the additional information! Much appreciated, Melvin www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com | 
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				Re: Identity of RK & DKiG holder?
			 Melvin:  Nice pic! Oberfeldwebel ALBERT KELBCH (right spelling-not Kelbsch) is the other man next Major ORLOWSKI. Kelbch was the longtime Bordfunker in Orlowski's crew and was also MIA when his Ju 88 crashed on 8-11-43. Kelbch was awarded with the Knights Cross after his death. | 
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