Late war Bf 109 pictures source

[ouidjat]

Thanks Chris!

And according to Kees Mol in Lu/Ga 4 this is JG 6 .... and the premise of that great new adventure!!!

And by the way, WNr. is 784938, not 784930. This is a well sprayed around error.

Cheers, Franck.

PS: Thanks Marc; well ... you know what.

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by ChrisS

Hi Marc

Upon checking my collection I find a small 'fruit' for your labour from Luftwaffe SIG Norway website is a repeat of Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 784 930 "Grüne 1", I./JG 77, Twenthe, Summer 1945.

Chris

There are also two photos on page 144 of Smith & Gallaspy's "Luftwaffe Camouflage & Markings 1935–45, Vol. 3" (Kookaburra, 1977).

However, if it was at Twente, why does the A.I.2(g) report on the aerodrome mention only one aircraft there, an Me 262? This Bf 109 was out in the open by apparently undamaged hangars, so it's unlikely to have been overlooked. It wasn't in a remote dispersal, for example.

[Cpt_Farrel]

It seems to me that the listing from Twente is from after VE day and could it be that by then, only aircraft of particular interest was listed?

/Anders

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Great shot!

Many thanks Chris, much appreciated! And yes, I'll keep it up, no worries;-))
Marc

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Franck, appreciated;-))

As for 784930, well it is still 784930. It was published before as 784938 (Mol 2013, LuGA 4, p. 52).

Cheers
Marc

[ouidjat]

Marc,

Well, there is a misunderstanding here.

P52 I agree the sentence isn't clear but P53 the WNr.784938 is written Under the profile. and repeated Under the photo page 55 and in the full text left of the picture.

My conclusion is that page 52 the sentence really means that "Grüne 1" was 784938 (instead of 784930) and that it was published AS 784930 instead of 784938.

Do you "see" the difference?

Cheers, Franck.

[John Manrho]

This can not be a JG 6 a/c. The III. Gruppe bar is missing....I believe I also discussed this with Kees mol....:-) If somebody can scan that article in LuGa #4 for me I can check if I would change my mind.....

[Cpt_Farrel]

Originally Posted by John Manrho

This can not be a JG 6 a/c. The III. Gruppe bar is missing....I believe I also discussed this with Kees mol....:-) If somebody can scan that article in LuGa #4 for me I can check if I would change my mind.....

Is there any proof that III./JG6 used gruppe bars at the time? It wasn't uncommon for some units to be without Gruppe bars so the fact that it's missing isn't proof alone imho.

/Anders

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by ouidjat

Marc,

Well, there is a misunderstanding here.

P52 I agree the sentence isn't clear but P53 the WNr.784938 is written Under the profile. and repeated Under the photo page 55 and in the full text left of the picture.

My conclusion is that page 52 the sentence really means that "Grüne 1" was 784938 (instead of 784930) and that it was published AS 784930 instead of 784938.

Do you "see" the difference?

Cheers, Franck.

Franck,

What I see on my side is W.Nr. 784 930 on all pages except p. 55...

Cheers
Marc

[ouidjat]

Right!

and I'm sorry ... you got the rushes not the published article!!
I understand now you didn't!!

Cheers, Franck.