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Old 9th October 2011, 13:23
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Re: He219 and Flugzeug Überführungsgeschwader 1

Another two He 219s I've just come across in Ultra, reference CX/MSS/R.531 (A) paragraph 10:

13 April 1945: He 219, W.Nr. 097, 80% damaged by enemy action at Flensburg.

21 April 1945: He 219 A-2, W.Nr. 420328, G9+OL, I./NJG 1 (Westerland), 60% damage.

These are just entries in a list, there are no more details than these, unfortunately.
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Re: He219 and Flugzeug Überführungsgeschwader 1

Dear Karl, Norbert and Nick,

First thanks for your comments and support, I also thought of 'vor Bach bei Greven' because it would make sense that a plane produced in Rostock during its delivery to Münster-Handorf could have made an emergency landing before reaching its destiny. The only doubt is the very detailed description of this landing 'near a creek' without specifying which creek. So that info is quite unrelevant it seems.

On the other hand: the combination of 'Vorbach' and 'Beugreven/Beigreven' makes no sense either...

At the moment I accept Norberts explanation as most likely version, having no credible alternatives.

Nick, the identities of both He219 named in Ultra are these:
'097' refers either to 190097 (there are other examples of He219's with only the last three digits on the tail section) or He219A-097 which would mean that Wnr. 190225 was meant. I do hope the last option is correct, that would imply another identified fate of a He219 because so far I have no single reference/report for 190225.
The He219 (Wnr. 420328, a He219A-2 produced in Schwechat) was flown by Hptm. Alex Graf Ressequier and was damaged by a RAF Mossie.

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Re: He219 and Flugzeug Überführungsgeschwader 1

Another reference to an He 219 "097" from Ultra, this time in January 1945.
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Old 2nd November 2011, 16:05
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Re: He219 and Flugzeug Überführungsgeschwader 1

Hello Nick,

As always you come up with something interesting and this fits to the data Rod McKenzie gaves us via the LEMB of Pete Evans a while ago:http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/fo...howtopic=10405

Seeing the message itself is wonderful and one wonders which other treasures may be in the ULTRA earlier in 1944...

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