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Old 27th October 2005, 17:24
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hello,

Yes I have my Grandfathers pilot logbook from November 1938 to until October 1944.
He had to learning also fly by Bf110 E, G and Me 210 Ca-1, he did the ABK-Z Hungary too, from November 1943 to 02/Februar 1944 in Ferihegy-Budapest airfield.
I don't have a picture about the Bf-109 E (GA+LE ), just the markings in his pilots logbook, unfortunatly for the Hungaryans fighter didn't write to the book any number or Stammkannzeichnummer.
This number from one small paper, when he was flying by the Bf-109 E. Probably this kind of RADAR coordinate draw. He had to fly above 8000 meters, when he got this altitude, he immeditly turn down and to landet.
This kind of training was, and this were for the Germans and the Hungaryans doctors and officers to chacked him. How he could fly in very high altitude.
He didn't do well, his ears didn't licked this immeditly altitude changes, and he came like as a Zerstörer and a Night Fighter pilots.
Maybe for me also was lucky, because if came as a single-engine fighter, 100 prozent, he could'nt survive the war.

I hope I can help, sincerely, Balazs Garai
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Old 16th December 2008, 01:01
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Re: Bf109E GA+LE

Hello!

I found few weeks ago one Bf109E7 picture. Almost same like above mentioned.
Stammknr:GA+LK

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Old 16th December 2008, 18:42
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Re: Bf109E GA+LE

Hello Balazs Garai

The excellent stkz database from LEMB http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/stam-g.html indicates that GA+LE was an E-7 with W.Nr. 3803 and served with JFS 4 JG 102.

For JFS 4 info look here: http://www.ww2.dk/air/schule/jfs4.htm

For JG 102 info look here: http://www.ww2.dk/air/jagd/jg102.html

I have Bf 109 E-7 GA+HP a picture that is from an ex-eBay auction which might give you a good idea of what your Grandfather's plane looked like:

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Old 16th December 2008, 23:57
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Re: Bf109E GA+LE

Hello Chris,

thanks for attached photo. Nice shoot.
I made one draw, the plane could be like that.
White "2" sign is sure on the engine cover.
Second Bf109E attached picture White "8" also from Szekesfehervár-Börgönd at 1943.
It is from one Hungarian book, Airwar in Hungary 1939-1945.
Picture is scanned, and not so sharp.

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Old 17th December 2008, 17:03
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Re: Bf109E GA+LE

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I made one draw, the plane could be like that.
Balázs,

A small correction. By the time your grandfather flew the 'Emil', the swastika was placed on the fin and not across the fin-and-rudder.
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Old 28th December 2008, 22:11
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Hello guys,

I attached some documents from my Grandfather logbook.

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Garai Balazs

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Old 29th December 2008, 16:30
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Excellent, and vey rare, document. Thank you for sharing, Balázs. Köszönöm!
Too bad the Hungarian serial numbers were not recorded...
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