3/JG2 raf 607 pilots ids.258 sqn 5/10/40

[ahafan]

Hello'
JG2 on 5/10/40 shot down around 5 hurricanes from tangmare- 607 sqn .and 258 sqn.but pilots IDS are not known.any know who they were;
they crash landed as i know.from a air fight...
Sharon

[Peter Cornwell]

238 Squadron, Chilbolton

Hurricane P3611. Shot down by Bf109s in combat over Shaftesbury and abandoned near Mere 1.55 p.m. Sergeant J. W. McLaughlin baled out badly burned - admitted to Shaftesbury Hospital. Aircraft VK*L a write off.
Site excavated by Torbay Aircraft Museum and many shattered and burnt-out components recovered.

607 Squadron, Tangmere

Hurricane P3668. Forced-landed damaged in combat with Bf109s of I./JG2 over Swanage 2.00 p.m. Flight Lieutenant W. F. Blackadder believed unhurt. Aircraft damaged but repairable.

Hurricane P3759. Forced-landed damaged following combat with Bf109s of I./JG2 over Swanage 2.00 p.m. Flight Lieutenant J. M. Bazin believed unhurt. Aircraft damaged but repairable.

Hurricane V6742. Forced-landed at Broom Farm, Fareham, damaged in combat with Bf109s of I./JG2 over Swanage 2.00 p.m. Pilot Officer D. Evans believed unhurt. Aircraft damaged but repairable.

Hurricane P3554. Shot down in combat with Bf109s of I./JG2 over Swanage and crashed at Woodhorn Farm, Aldingbourne, 2.00 p.m. Sergeant R. A. Spyer baled out unhurt. Aircraft a write-off.
Excavated by the Wealden Aviation Archaeological Group in September 1979. Intact Rolls-Royce Merlin engine recovered together with complete instrument panel and control column. Aircraft identity plate also discovered confirming identity.

[ahafan]

Originally Posted by Peter Cornwell

238 Squadron, Chilbolton

Hurricane P3611. Shot down by Bf109s in combat over Shaftesbury and abandoned near Mere 1.55 p.m. Sergeant J. W. McLaughlin baled out badly burned - admitted to Shaftesbury Hospital. Aircraft VK*L a write off.
Site excavated by Torbay Aircraft Museum and many shattered and burnt-out components recovered.

607 Squadron, Tangmere

Hurricane P3668. Forced-landed damaged in combat with Bf109s of I./JG2 over Swanage 2.00 p.m. Flight Lieutenant W. F. Blackadder believed unhurt. Aircraft damaged but repairable.

Hurricane P3759. Forced-landed damaged following combat with Bf109s of I./JG2 over Swanage 2.00 p.m. Flight Lieutenant J. M. Bazin believed unhurt. Aircraft damaged but repairable.

Hurricane V6742. Forced-landed at Broom Farm, Fareham, damaged in combat with Bf109s of I./JG2 over Swanage 2.00 p.m. Pilot Officer D. Evans believed unhurt. Aircraft damaged but repairable.

Hurricane P3554. Shot down in combat with Bf109s of I./JG2 over Swanage and crashed at Woodhorn Farm, Aldingbourne, 2.00 p.m. Sergeant R. A. Spyer baled out unhurt. Aircraft a write-off.
Excavated by the Wealden Aviation Archaeological Group in September 1979. Intact Rolls-Royce Merlin engine recovered together with complete instrument panel and control column. Aircraft identity plate also discovered confirming identity.

thanks ;
but ? in the big book battle britain then and now states they crash landed around the base?
SHARON

[Peter Cornwell]

Sharon,

Research has moved on in 42 years. This is the best information I have at present. Sorry.

[ahafan]

Originally Posted by Peter Cornwell

Sharon,

Research has moved on in 42 years. This is the best information I have at present. Sorry.

Hello
my mistake it stated crash landed...in the books as you said.some crash landed

sharon

[Stig Jarlevik]

Peter

Sorry to be a pain, but can you just confirm if P3759 is a typo here or if P3756 is a typo in BoB T&N?

Cheers
Stig

[Peter Cornwell]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

Sorry to be a pain, but can you just confirm if P3759 is a typo here or if P3756 is a typo in BoB T&N? Stig

No pain at all Stig. The correct serial is P3759.

[Stig Jarlevik]

Thanks Peter

Really appreciate your help (+ all the books I have!!) Nice to get this one corrected.

Cheers
Stig

[northeagle]

Originally Posted by Peter Cornwell

238 Squadron, Chilbolton

Hurricane P3611. Shot down by Bf109s in combat over Shaftesbury and abandoned near Mere 1.55 p.m. Sergeant J. W. McLaughlin baled out badly burned - admitted to Shaftesbury Hospital. Aircraft VK*L a write off.
Site excavated by Torbay Aircraft Museum and many shattered and burnt-out components recovered.

607 Squadron, Tangmere

Hurricane P3668. Forced-landed damaged in combat with Bf109s of I./JG2 over Swanage 2.00 p.m. Flight Lieutenant W. F. Blackadder believed unhurt. Aircraft damaged but repairable.

Hurricane P3759. Forced-landed damaged following combat with Bf109s of I./JG2 over Swanage 2.00 p.m. Flight Lieutenant J. M. Bazin believed unhurt. Aircraft damaged but repairable.

Hurricane V6742. Forced-landed at Broom Farm, Fareham, damaged in combat with Bf109s of I./JG2 over Swanage 2.00 p.m. Pilot Officer D. Evans believed unhurt. Aircraft damaged but repairable.

Hurricane P3554. Shot down in combat with Bf109s of I./JG2 over Swanage and crashed at Woodhorn Farm, Aldingbourne, 2.00 p.m. Sergeant R. A. Spyer baled out unhurt. Aircraft a write-off.
Excavated by the Wealden Aviation Archaeological Group in September 1979. Intact Rolls-Royce Merlin engine recovered together with complete instrument panel and control column. Aircraft identity plate also discovered confirming identity.

I'm afraid parts of this are not correct. Jim Bazin, 607 Squadron, leading squadron over Swanage. Francis Blackadder saw aircraft to the rear and alerted Bazin...no response. 607 was then badly bounced from the rear, 4 aircraft force landed 6 others damaged.
Francis Blackadder flying Hurricane P3929 commented: WFB shot down by Me109s. Jim Bazin flying Hurricane P3668, his usual aircraft, also force landed. Both pilots were uninjured.
Source: logbooks of Jim Bazin and Francis Blackadder.

Best Wishes.
Robert.

[Andy Saunders]

Whilst three of these aircraft may well have made a forced-landing, P3554 most certainly did not. The pilot baled out leaving his aircraft to dive to destruction at Woodhorn Farm, Aldingbourne.

Somewhere I have a file of correspondence from the brother of Evans ('Wimpey' Evans, as I recall?) in which he talks about this episode. I need to get out my notes, but I also think that the late Alexander McKee saw a 607 Sqn Hurricane in a field near Fareham during October 1940 and I believe he sketched it. Possibly this was Evans' aircraft, although all of this is from memory at present.

I cannot comment on the serial number anomaly for the aircraft being flown by Bazin and Blackadder, but doubtless Peter Cornwell will be able to have some input and address the variations he has.