Hooton's Luftwaffe Loss Totals - request for clarification

[Paul Thompson]

Originally Posted by Tony Jones

Paul

There are well over 100-150 tins fot AHB 6 and I found one loss in a Flak KTB in 1944, an He 111 with c/n and serial.

Other tins had KTB for NJG units with say 4 bombers shot down, own losses 1 x Bf 110 and 1 X Bf 109, no c/n or serials, crew names given but I have no interest in these. I started at Tin 1 and worked through to the last one, it took 5 visits.

I was very disappointed with AHB 6 no detail whatsoever of a/c.

The are a series of films "Luftwaffe Situation Reports" from 1938 to end of 1942, plenty of pilot names but no c/n data. Each film has nearly a 1000 pages, all original documents.

There are bound volumes of RAF Intelligence daily reports, many losses for both sides but no c/n or serial apart from one Seenots a/c.
I took copies up to the end of BoB, and a loss chart in 1944. I have just given this data to Steve Sheridan (on TOCH) and by now he may have studied it to see if it gives new data.

There are the Milch films, original minutes of all his meetings on production etc.

There are lots of Rechlin reports etc, especially for Me 262 and other jets.

There is the Mintech Collection of say 2,000 films, the same collection as in Washington. Duxford has films missing in Silver Hill Washington and thye have films missing at Duxford. We looked at very on of these films

We made about 75 visits and looked at nearly everything there.

Regards

Tony

Tony, thank you very much, that's an exhaustive description of what you did! 75 visits, well that's the difference between amateurs like me and serious researchers!

I am sorry that you weren't able to find loss information for individual aircraft, but I wonder whether overall loss statistics are available in one form or another. You see, I am looking for that sort of information, that is monthly and yearly loss data, rather than individual aircraft fates.

In view of the above, I wonder if the KTBs and "Situation reports" contain monthly, or even weekly, loss summaries, so that it's not necessary to look at every single file to get a total figure. Do the RAF Intelligence reports concern RAF operations, or British assessments of Luftwaffe operations?

Is the loss chart for 1944 the same that I summarized in a previous post in this thread?

Regards,

Paul Thompson

[Tony Jones]

Paul

I just looked at sample films on LW Situation Reports as these on operation matters, of no interest to me.

If you send you address to my private message section I will put the RAF Intel that I copied on a CD and you can judge this data yourself. From memory there were about 30 volumes, they are in the IWM Library section not the general collection.

Regards

Tony

[Paul Thompson]

Hello Tony,

I've just sent you a PM.

Regards,

Paul Thompson

[Paul Thompson]

Below is the summary JG loss data for 1943 in the Mediterranean, from Volume 11/I of JFV:

KIA/MIA
356
POW
28
WIA/INJ
236
Written Off (60-100%)
1092
Damaged (10-60%)
826

Can anyone supply the equivalent data from Volume 12/I, to enable a comparison with the Eastern Front in the same period?