Looking for information about B17F n° 42-30803 crashed on 1/12/43 in Montjoie en couserans

[gilles collaveri]

Hi all,

I am looking for information about a B17F n° 42-30803, that was allegedly hit by Flak and crashed near the Pyrénées mountains, in the south of France on 1 December 1943.

Any data is welcome, thanks a lot for your help,

GC

Data: B17F N° 42-30803, 8th Air force 1 st Bomb division, 92nd BG 325th BS, Mission 145 (Solingen / Leverkusen)
Crew:Pilot: 2nd lt HALE GEORGE (KIA)
Copilot 2nd lt SMITH Everett D (KIA)
Gunner: ANDERSON Ralph W (KIA)
Radio: LOCKMAN Frank C (KIA)
Navigator:2nd Lt KELLY James M (KIA)
Bomber:2nd Lt HUGHES Paul H (KIA)
Gunner: Sgt MADISON Louis B (KIA)
Gunner S/Sgt QUARTES Lloyd C (KIA)
Gunner : S/Sgt LILIENTHAL Wm C Jr (KIA)
Gunner :WILSON Donld L (prisoner)

[FrankieS]

Hi Gilles,
that one crashed at Germany.
Why do you think at France?

kind regards,
FrankieS

[gilles collaveri]

mm...

I was asking this question on behalf of a friend of mine (who does not speak much english):

I shall ask him where and how he got this information and I shall revert to you as sooon as I have his feedback.

Thanks for your checks, FranckieS, & best regards

Gilles

[Leendert]

Confusion perhaps due to website b17-france.org which gives Monjoie-en-Cousserons as crashsite.
Location is Monschau, Germany instead?

Regards,

Leendert

[FrankieS]

MACR1387 431201 B-17 42-30803 92 325 George C. Hale(0-677489) Siegburg
crash: 53881 Elsig-Frauenberg bei Euskirchen D

[Nick Hector]

Losses of the 8th and 9th Air Forces vol 1 states that the ball turret was blown off and the no.2 engine was set on fire. The entire interior was in flames, then it broke in two. Location is given as Elsig, near Frauenburg - just as has been pointed out.

HTH
Nick

[gilles collaveri]

Thanks guys,

I check with my contact and revert to you when I get an update.

Cheers

GC

[edwest]

Here is what I have:

Del Dallas 30/7/43; Gore 31/7/43; Dallas 3/8/43; ass 325BS/92BG [NV-O] Podington 27/9/43; MIA Leverkusen 1/12/43 w/Hale; flak, cr Montjoie, Fr; 9KIA 1POW; MACR 1387.


So, the crash is listed as in France at Montjoie in "The B-17 Flying Fortress Story" by Roger A. Freeman with David Osborne.




Ed

[gilles collaveri]

Hi Ed,

thanks for taking time to serach, I appreciate.

However, something is not clear to me. I read:

"Missing In Action in Leverkusen on 1/12/43 w/Hale; flak,"
then,
" cr Montjoie, Fr;"

what does "cr" mean ?
and finally, where did it actually crah ?

kind regards

Gilles

[edwest]

cr means crash. According to the report, it crashed in France at Montjoie.




Ed