6L+NOS on eBay Bf 109 A or B

[RT]

Seems you are right Rasmu., 6L+ as 2L+, solution is in the Log , the 6 looks like a G, these markings are biz. constructed
6L+COS
6L+GOS
6L+LOS
6L+NOS,


L2+F41 driven by Magnussen an Ace later with KG30, so prob. flew for Erpr.St.88
L2+G41

L2 plus prior 1939 military code ??

L2+705

L2 plus Wn ..


E6+ Code for Rechlin


HE+KE Marking from the Heinkel factory

Rémi

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by RT

L2 plus prior 1939 military code ??

Not unusual ... for example He 111 "2 L + B 32", LZA Rotenburg, July 1939 or the Ju 52 "2 L + V 11", Fliegerwaffenschule Tutow, March 1939, or a lot of a/c's from Lehrgruppe Greifswald in 1938 (Ju 87, Hs 123, W 34). There are a lot of "strange" markings documented by logs or pictures like an crashed He 111 "72 + XOK".

[RT]

But here is seems to hv the strange Kz "collected"

Rémi

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by RT

Seems you are right Rasmu., 6L+ as 2L+, solution is in the Log , the 6 looks like a G, these markings are biz. constructed
6L+COS
6L+GOS
6L+LOS
6L+NOS,
L2+F41 driven by Magnussen an Ace later with KG30, so prob. flew for Erpr.St.88
L2+G41
L2 plus prior 1939 military code ??
L2+705
L2 plus Wn ..
E6+ Code for Rechlin
HE+KE Marking from the Heinkel factory
Rémi

Hello RT, Hi Jörg and Guys,

I just got stupid thoughts but I want to write them anyway:

Let suppose L for Lehr (well camouflaged under former "civil codes" like WL-xxxx and D-Lxxx)
Then 6L-xxx that is 6th Lehrstaffel which is reknown by "Lehrstaffel (See) Travemünde".
I would say, 6th Lehrstaffel, O for Ost and S for See, then 6L-xOS.

Works for He111 (for example) 72+XOK where O, still for Ost and K for Kampf.

Let's say, in this log book, a general overview of aircraft codes evolution from the very beginning when luftwaffe was still "civil" to earlier form , through vkz, with full unit code.
In this case "O for Ost" being the former flotte command area.

Good?

Regards, Franck.

[RolandF]

Completely new revelations for me - thx for teaching!

Where is this coding system described and when did it switch to the 4-letter/digit system?

Thx in advance

Roland

[red-star25]

The zero is for sure.
Some of the reports give the VKZ as "null" in written form.
I have no explanation for this system.

Dirk

[ouidjat]

Hi Roland,

I said "let me make a guess" in other words ...
I am asking the same thing than you: is it possible?
If someone says; "no, we did publish it or it has been studied long time ago and what Franck wrote is stupid" I would answer "OK, no problem".

If not - I just did read Rémi and Jörg comments - could it be the beginning of a clue to explain those markings?
And if yes (after a little research) I claim the moral copyright! For free!

Regards, Franck.

[Seaplanes]

Based on information in BA/MA files RL 10/365 and the log book of Uffz. Fries, the Lehrstaffel (See) Travemünde (unit code 6L+) was formed in June 1938. On 01.11.38 the unit was redesignated 10.(See)/L.G.2 (unit code L2+). On 15.09.39 redesignated 3./K.G.30.
In June and July 1938 the unit received the following new aircraft:
He 60E W.Nr. 2478 6L+B0S
He 60E W.Nr. 2479 6L+C0S
Do 18D-1 W.Nr. 715 6L+E0S
Do 18D-1 W.Nr. 716 6L+D0S
He 59D W.Nr. 1835 6L+G0S
He 59D W.Nr. 1836 6L+H0S
Bf 109B-1 W.Nr. 354 6L+NOS
Bf 109B-1 W.Nr. 355 6L+O0S
Bf 109B-1 W.Nr. 356 6L+P0S
He 114A W.Nr. 2282 6L+W0S
On 09.06.38 the Staffel received three He 114A W.Nr. 2268, 2269 and
2270 that arrived from Heinkel with the transfer codes HE+JI, HE+KI and HE+LI respectively. They were given the unit codes 6L+T0S, U0S and V0S, not necessarirly in the same order. It is remarked that the 0 = Null (zero). However, it seems that 6L+T0S was given to He 114A W.Nr. 2373.
The Staffel also operated some aircraft that were flown with their
"civil" registrations:
W.34hi (Land) W.Nr. 1492 D-ONYY
W.34hi (See) W.Nr. 1491 D-OVUU
Ju 87A-1 W.Nr. 0870186 D-IBEX
On 19.09.38 the unit received the He 59E W.Nr. 2597 marked BA+HO from Walter Bachmann, Ribnitz (hence BA+ for Bachmann). It is stated that the transfer code was only for the flight from Ribnitz to Travemünde and had to be washed off after arrival.
Hope this is of some interest.

[ianatheling]

Many thanks, some great stuff
Ian