Colours used on JG54 109F aircraft at start of Barbarossa

[Kjetil Aakra]

You amaze me, Franek! I have no doubt that you know a lot about Polish aviation and related fields, but from your last post it is obvious that you haven't really studied Luftwaffe camouflage and markings or have completely failed to grasp the meaning of what you are seeing. You demonstrate a level of ignorance I thought impossible by someone who frequents this forum so often as you do.

There is simply not enough time or space here for me to give you a detailed presentation of Luftwaffe camouflage styles and patterns and besides, I see from your other posts that you will never be convinced by any other person's arguments so I'll save myself that trouble, anyway.

Just a few comments on your latest mail, as I won't let them stand uncontested.

What the RLM intended, well they certainly didn't intend the multitude of schemes we see on Bf 109s and Fw 190s from units like II. & III./JG 5, II./JG 3, the whole of JG 54, JG 51 and so on! Find some books on these units and you'll see what I mean.

"You are kidding, are not you? A few examples confirming the rule, that there was no nose art in the Luftwaffe, apart of exceptional gothic names under a windscreen."

But that's my point. There's not just a few examples of nose art, tail art and fuselage art. There are hundreds. So your statment is demonstrably wrong - there were lot's of nose art in the Luftwaffe.

Regarding the colours of the Bf 109F I showed I had them confirmed a few days ago by a former member of the Geschwader. This, in addition to a lot of photographic and documentary evidence leaves virtually no doubt that the base colour was RLM 79 modified with dark green and RLM 75.

(Apologies to Ruy Horta if this is going too far, but I just want to say this.)

I have read many of your previous post and "discussions" with other people on this forum, Franek, and it is obvious to me that you have an agenda. A clear anti-Soviet and anti-German historical agenda, that is. I don't know much about Polish aviation so I couldn't say if you distorted and lied or really presented the true picture (I was always willing to give you the benefit of doubt), but when I see what you think you know about Luftwaffe it makes me wonder.

A last piece of advice before I conclude this "discussion" - try not to be so sure about things you don't know anything about, it actually increases your credibillity!

Kjetil