Jg 27 Bf 109s w.nr. 2623 ans 2747(?)

[chuckschmitz]

I believe these to be Bf 109 Es from JG 27 with w.nr. 2623 and 2747. Does anyone have details?

Chuck

[chuckschmitz]

and not ans.

Chuck

[Jim P.]

Could WNr. 2623 actually be WNr. 2023? If so, maybe Lippert, Gr.Kdr. II./JG 27. I have several entries for WNr. 2747, but all post BoB.

[chuckschmitz]

Taking another look it could indeed be 2023. Thanks.

[ouidjat]

And actually 2623 is here:
http://www.me109.info/display.php?a=e&fid=1893

Regards, Franck.

[chuckschmitz]

Ok, is there a 2623 with JG 27?

[chuckschmitz]

Following up on the previous, anyone have anything on w.nr. 2761 or 67? Thanks.

Chuck

[G.R.Morrison]

No JG 27 match with 2767; it went from 2./JG 26 to the Erg. Gruppe JG 26, where it was eventually lost when the student pilot baled out.

I drew a blank with 2761.

I agree with Jim that Lippert seems the most-likely "suspect," for I cannot think of any pilot in 5./JG 27 that would have had 18 claims by that point. The photo we have shows 17 Abschusse on the fin in the three locations, and WNr.2023 large and perfectly legible.

GRM

[ouidjat]

Hi Jim and Morrisson,

You maybe right concerning 2023. I'm just surprised that the victory board is displaying like on JG 3 machines.
On late plane(s) used by Lippert there is nothing like that.
I have no answer and - as I said - I accept Lippert flew on 2023 but: at the time this picture was taken?

Regards, Franck.

[G.R.Morrison]

Franck,

Abschußbalken are displayed on the fin on early JG 51, JG52, JG53, JG 54 and JG 77 aircraft, too. Sometimes it continued with the 109F (Leesmann's of I/JG 52, and Trautloft's F-2 had them on the fin, before they were repainted on the rudder). A different Lippert 109E-4, WNr.4148, also has them on the fin (see Ries' Bilanz am Seitenleitwerk, page 76.

BTW, my last name has just one 's' - although 'ass' has two, and sometimes I'm mistaken for one. ;-)

GRM