Summarische Verlustmeldung vs. Bestandsmeldung

[Norbert Schuchbauer]

Hi Andreas,
thank you for your reply. I guess I need to pick a trial unit and try to get to the bottom of this.

The other fact that does not help is when a unit was redesignated, absorbed or disbanded. There is always this "fluid" time that one has no ideas how long it may have lasted.

It gets even more confusing when you have a Flugbuch from a pilot who was with NSGr. 20 and the seal used to certify his hours says III.(Nacht)/KG 51.

Hopefully Andreas you may be able to share the possible findings from your BA documents regarding loss reporting.

Thanks again,

Norbert

[ju55dk]

Originally Posted by Norbert Schuchbauer

Hi Andreas,

It gets even more confusing when you have a Flugbuch from a pilot who was with NSGr. 20 and the seal used to certify his hours says III.(Nacht)/KG 51.

Thanks again,

Norbert

If you are referring to Flugbuch Hptm. Hans-Hermann Müller its easy to solve! III/KG 51 Ergänzungsstaffel (Nacht) was in 1945 renamed 14(N)/SG 151, stationed in Vaerlöse/DK. All his flights in Vaerlöse was with SG 151, certified with seal KG 51. He only had one flight with NSGr. 20.

Junker

[Norbert Schuchbauer]

Thank you Junker,
this is the one.

Did you have more info than just his Flugbuch to make this connection? I'm curious to know. Because I certainly did not see this link.

Thanks,

Norbert

[ju55dk]

First there is Müller himself! I had contact with him over a long time. He stated that his flights in Vaerlöse were training-flights, only flying 1 operational sortie with NSGr. 20. His last two flight was only confirmed by signature, not by a seal! Second NSGr. 20 never went to Denmark, and 14(N)/SG 151 were still here at wars end. Also according to Carlsen/Meyer 14/SG 151 were formed from ErgSt./III/KG 51! It had nothing to do with NSGr. 20. Hope this helps to clarify things.

Junker

[Norbert Schuchbauer]

Thank you so much this really helped a lot. I can see clearly now.

Regards,

Norbert

[nikboj]

I am looking for information on Hans-Hermann Müller, I know he passed away, but do not have any knowledge of him. His age, birthday and last address ? What date and year did he pass away ? I am trying to find his grave somewhere in Germany. Do you think you could help ?
Nikolaj Bojer