Dornier 17-Z, Goodwin Sands, 26 August 1940

[Chris Goss]

Thanks Neil. Back in UK tonight protests petmitting

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Chris Goss

Thanks Neil. Back in UK tonight protests petmitting

You mean there are people protesting about letting you back in?

[Chris Goss]

Wife went to have a look yesterday & got a whiff if tear gas!
Update on Do 17 is they will be dismantling over the coming days so are on the lookout for makers plate.

[Phil Lloyd]

Just 'washed' the plate through a few photoshop filters and it appears to read.


Best. Nr. 54xx6/4
Zeich.Nr. 17.57x-315

The other numbers seem too obscured :- )

[Stuart Forth]

Thanks for keeping us up to date guys, and congratulations to all involved in the project.

Can anyone tell me why there is sudden doubt as to which a/c this is?

[Chris Goss]

There has never been a sudden doubt- although the AHB thought it was this ac, myself & others have urged caution as we cannot be 100% sure until we have. Wk Nr

[Peter Cornwell]

Chris is quite correct to say that the question of identity is not a case of 'sudden doubt' - certainly among those who make a study of such things. Until it can be established that the wreckage is indeed that of 1160 then establishing a link to ESSMERT's aircraft, despite the high degree of probability, remains speculative. Encouragingly, the absence of any crew during its recovery does add to this possibility.

[edNorth]

Curious, which factory delivered W.Nr. 1160 and this be Do 17 Z-1, Z-2 or Z-3.
Thanks in advance. -ed

[Stuart Forth]

Just goes to show that you shouldn't believe what you read in the papers!

Cheers.

[Andy Saunders]

Originally Posted by FalkeEins

I've just got back from Ramsgate harbour - the wreck is now in port, although quayside access is restricted

http://falkeeins.blogspot.co.uk/2013...ier-do-17.html

I did manage to catch Mr Saunders on the local lunch-time news though - not Effmert's a/c ?

As Peter C and Chris G have said, it really is a case of wait and see! If the aircraft it is said to be did indeed put down on the sands at low tide then the location and attitude (upside down) of the wreck might be difficult to reconcile with that fact. Plus, the possibility cannot be excluded that it is one of many other Do17s in that sea area, of course. A case of wait and see.

On the other hand, and if reports of five x MG15s being recovered from this particular wreck by sport divers are correct it might beg another question; surely there would have been only four if the escape hatch had been ditched? In other words, and in theory, there would still have been four in the cabin area but the fifth would have surely gone with the escape hatch?

Just musings. And we cannot be sure that the recovered MG15s originated with this wreck, of course, or that the quoted total (five) is accurate.

Little point in speculating until that Werke Nr. is found. For the sake of RAFM I hope it is the one they say it is. However, for the purposes of the PMR Act licence they had to apply a confirmed identity else a recovery licence could not have been granted. And the Dornier in question ticked the right boxes. However, as Peter C says, for the time being it can only be speculative.