Who flew von Greim and Reitsch out of Berlin?

[wartourist]

Gents, just to top this thread off (for now at least), I too have read the Grey Wolf book by Williams & Dunstan. No reason to go into a lengthy review as I concur completely with the views expressed by many in the Axis History Forom, where the book was thoroughly debated a couple of years ago.
Thread here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...e+now#p1637569
Dan

[edwest]

There is no reason to believe Hitler died in the bunker.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...skull-fragment

The Russians claim to have Hitler's jaw but have only allowed photographs to be seen. There is no reason to believe the Russians ever had Hitler's remains. It appears his double may have been found. In the book, Speaking Frankly (1947), by Secretary of State James F. Byrnes, he recounts a meeting with Stalin and Hitler's death is brought up. Stalin tells him he is not dead but either in Spain or Argentina. Post-war FBI reports state that certain persons had seen Hitler and Eva Braun in all-German communities. I do not think the Secretary of State or the FBI were in error, or the qualified person who viewed the alleged Hitler skull fragment.


Ed

[Nick Beale]

"I do not think the Secretary of State or the FBI were in error"

Yup, you can always trust a politician. And didn't J. Edgar Hoover spend years denying the existence of the Mafia?

[edwest]

Originally Posted by Nick Beale

"I do not think the Secretary of State or the FBI were in error"

Yup, you can always trust a politician. And didn't J. Edgar Hoover spend years denying the existence of the Mafia?

Nick,


I am a bit surprised to see you use the tactic of diversion. From fbi.gov:

"By the early 1930s, cities like St. Paul, Minnesota, had become virtual training grounds for young crooks, while Hot Springs, Arkansas, had turned into a safe haven and even a vacation spot for the criminal underworld. Al Capone was locked away for good in 1931 (thanks in part to the Bureau), but his Chicago Outfit carried on fine without him and would actually experience a resurgence in the coming decades. The “Five Families” of the New York Mafia were also emerging during this period, with “Lucky” Luciano setting up the “Commission” to unite the mob and “Murder, Inc.” to carry out its hits. Prohibition was ultimately repealed in 1933, but by then, the Great Depression was in full force, and with honest jobs harder to come by than ever, the dishonest ones sometimes seemed more attractive than standing in soup lines."


Ed

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by edwest

Nick,

I am a bit surprised to see you use the tactic of diversion. From fbi.gov:
Ed

In no sense a diversion, Ed, simply a recognition that sources should be treated with due scepticism in the light of their track record. We're going dangerously off-topic here but what the post-Hoover FBI says in the light of hindsight and what Hoover was saying in an earlier era may be two different things. For example (heading back topic-wards) I have seen details in pilots' postwar memoirs that they neglected to mention in sortie reports.