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Old 12th May 2014, 10:00
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Re: JG 5 Walking stick with killer markings!!

Hello! Thanks for your help Andreas ,I did get this info : " The dates are 100% sure belonging to pilots in 5,6-8 staffel JG 5 , stationed in Kirkenes,petsamo and Salmijärvi. Probably it belonged to groundcrew at Petsamo."

It is original, for those who doubts it.

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Old 12th May 2014, 11:42
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Re: JG 5 Walking stick with killer markings!!

Hi, all

Partial matches exist - working from a secondary source today - Eric Mombeek's Jagdgeschwader 5 books:

05.03.1943 SU 2 Lt. Schumann, Friedrich III./JG 5 Pe-2 (29. BAP WWS SF)
10.03.1943 Il 2 No claims for Pe-2 or Il-2 on this date, but Alakurtti was attacked by Pe-2s of 80. BAP and Il-2s of 828. SchAP, so it is possible that these claims are from III. Gruppe but not found in the claims list in archives today.
10.03.1943 See previous entry
18.03.1943 Il 2 Fw Beyer, Heinz 8./JG 5 Il-2 (Kpt. Peretjagin 17 gwSchAP 258. SchAD)
25.03.1943 Il 2 Fw Schuck, Walter 9./JG 5 Il-2 (Petsamo)
25.03.1943 Il 2 Fw. Hans Döbrich 6./JG 5 - ohne Zeugen - nicht Anerkannt
29.03.1943 Il 2 No claims for Il-2, one Pe-2 by Fw. Luy, Richard 9./JG 5. But the Alarmrotte of 7./JG 5 was also in the air and claimed one Il-2 close to Petsamo. It is possible that more claims were carved in but is either missing or was not filed.
29.03.1943 Il 2 See above
29.03.1943 Il 2 See above
04.04.1943 Il 2 Lt Rost, Wolfgang 7./JG 5 Il-2. Alarmstart in Petsamo.
22.08.1943 Il 2 I think the claims record for this date is missing - all parts of JG 5 in the east flew multiple sorties this day. It could also be that the person who carved this entered the wrong date as the units flew sorties almost around the clock to protect a convoi of ships and there are multiple claims related to the following day.
22.08.1943 Il 2 See above
22.08.1943 Il 2 See above
27.09.1943 Il 2 Three claims for Il-2 on this date, two by Fw. Klante, Helmut and one by Fw. Fiedler, Reinhold - both 7./JG 5
27.09.1943 P 40 Fw. Klante, Helmut 7./JG 5 Curtiss P-40

So - I take back the probably Flak statement and accept that this could be genuine and connected most probably to III./JG 5 operations in the vicinity of Petsamo.

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