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Old 14th May 2014, 14:23
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Re: It does not add up,

I have played with contract and brightness on this and I can only see P7537
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Old 14th May 2014, 15:24
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Re: It does not add up,

Hi Larry, Paul, etc.

I know which photos you are talking about. I remember the photos showing the pilot slumped outside of the port side of the cockpit. No idea if it was this aircraft or not.

If Arnott of 74Sqn was flying P7537 (P8199 in his log book filled out four years later!) he recorded it as a belly landing. This is not a survivable belly landing and not even sure he flew P7537 on his last mission either. Could have been Howard's.

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Old 14th May 2014, 16:23
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Re: It does not add up,

I think the one with the body alongside the aircraft is 64 Sqn shot down by Fozo. I have photos of Arnott's crash-landed Spitfire if I remember correctly-victim of Joppien? Alistair Arnott was shot down in P7928/ZP-N on 5 May 41-definitely not this aircraft

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Re: It does not add up,

Same aircraft ?
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=19400
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http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=8920
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Old 14th May 2014, 21:31
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Re: It does not add up,

I thought it had been on here before!
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Old 14th May 2014, 22:39
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Re: It does not add up,

Hi,
It is not the a/c of Orchard (Spit crashed into a hill close to Hardelot) but it is the P7697 YT-F of sgt Kay.

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Re: It does not add up,

Interesting thread

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If Sgt Arnett was flying P7928 when he was shot down, who went MIA with P7537?

Franks in Fighter Command losses vol 1 (1st edition from 1997) says the following three were lost one way or the other 6.5.41
P8364 (Howard) checked with Air Britain P1000-9999
P7537 (Arnett) checked with Air Britain as above
P7428 (Wilson) according to Air Britain this was lost on 31.3.41

Again checking Air Britain P7537 is listed as MIA on 6.5.41, so could Wilson have been in this aircraft?

However checking Foreman and his 1941 The turning point vol 2 (from 1994!), he lists the days losses from 74 Sq as follows
P7928 (Howard) checked with Air Britain P1000-9999
P7537 (Arnett) checked with Air Britain as above
----- (Boulding) badly damaged and crash-landed

So I certainly agree that something does not add up here, but what?

Can you Chris, or some one else, sum up the day from 74 Sq perspective?

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